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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Yeah... at this point, if Trump dies, it's well and truly deserved. He's done everything to avoid bowing to reality in any way whatsoever, with his leaving the hospital being the final straw for me feeling even an iota of sympathy for him on this. I'm just done.
Edit: FFS, someone (the White House Gift Shop) is selling "Trump Beat COVID" commemorative coins
! Tempting Fate to the Nth degree on this one!
Edited by ironballs16 on Oct 5th 2020 at 8:50:28 AM
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"Yes, but we're WELL INTO Stage III trials.
We've been in them for almost two months.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 5th 2020 at 5:52:23 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
On that note, Pfizer and Moderna subjects are reporting severe side-effects
from those vaccines, so... outlook seems poor.
Edited by ironballs16 on Oct 5th 2020 at 8:53:20 AM
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"![]()
And, again, obviously you can't test for long term efficacy or downsides if you skip the rest of it.
Trump made another stupid video.
I went, I didn’t feel so good, and two days ago, I could have left two days ago. Two days ago, I felt great, like better than I have in a long time. I just said recently, better than twenty years ago.
Don’t let it dominate. Don’t let it take over your lives. Don’t let that happen. We have the greatest country in the world. We’re going back. We’re going back to work. We’re going to be out front. As your leader I had to do that. I knew there was danger to it but I had to do it. I stood out front. I lead. Nobody that’s a leader would not do what I did. And I know there’s a danger, but that’s okay.
And now I’m better. And maybe I’m immune. I don’t know.
But don’t let it dominate your lives. Get out there. Be careful. We have the best medicines in the world. And it all happened very shortly. And they’re all getting approved. And the vaccines are coming momentarily. Thank you very much and Walter Reed – what a group of people. Thank you very much.
Ehhh....even then they might not be due to the vaccine.
Even then, I'm mostly for the Oxford Vaccine that they have plans for rolling out at the end of the year if things go well.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters."Anything noteworthy so far, Parable? I can't listen in right now, but will watch after classes."
A lot on his plans to keep workers affected by the pandemic afloat, how to reopen schools during all this, what to do about police violence, access to opportunity for the generations who got hit hardest by the recessions.
Late, but @astrokitty
One of the reasons I tend to watch this thread like a hawk is because this thread has rules specifically to deal with the kinds of issues I usually hate the most when following political discussions, and the muscle to enforce them. There is actually room for meaningful and productive conversations here.
So, here's what Trump's aides were aiming for:
And the president could use that to show from now until the second presidential debate, scheduled for Oct. 15, that the disease is serious but can be combated, and that he was ready to re-enter the campaign.
He already torpedoed it.
Itching to get out of the hospital, Mr. Trump got his wish on Monday evening. Doctors allowed him to leave for the White House, while acknowledging he hadn’t yet reached the critical seven- to 10-day window that doctors watch for with the coronavirus to see whether patients take a turn for the worse.
...
Over the weekend, Mr. Trump’s political advisers said they were clear eyed about who they were dealing with: Mr. Trump is widely seen as a figure incapable of empathy. But the hope was that discussing his own experience would help him manage the pandemic going forward, and could have political benefits.
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Mr. Trump did little to adhere to the narrative aides were hoping would emerge, one that would benefit him politically. In videos filmed by aides of Mr. Trump behind the scenes, intended to show him working, the president did not mention the hardship the virus had caused to others or that anyone had suffered greatly from it. Nor did he mention the White House staff members who had fallen sick.
I'm just quoting/reading the Guardian stream tbh. Seems to be clipped from a NYT article.
Edited by RainehDaze on Oct 5th 2020 at 2:15:34 PM

I'd quote but I'm on mobile and bluelinks fuck with the highlighting. Why do we not have a quote button?
Edited by Karxrida on Oct 5th 2020 at 5:47:09 AM