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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#331751: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:57:51 PM

I don't know why you would still want to discuss old "scandals" like his crowd size. Frankly, that one seems rather quaint these days.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#331752: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:58:46 PM

The subject's been mentioned before, so I will be brief. But the accusations of pedophilia are useful for two reasons: One. It is such a horrid crime that merely doubting it casts you on a poor light. Defending an alleged pedophile suffices to put you next on the chopping block. So accusing Biden isn't really so much accusing Biden alone of being a pedophile: It accuses the entire Democratic party of defending it at large.

Two, this clear polarization is beneficial politically as it is as obvious "bad guys vs good guys" where you'd have to, in appearance, defend child molesting to add any nuance.

There's several other reasons (mostly political polarization) but this seems to be the popular justification for the accusations of pedophilia. The reason for it is that people aren't very smart.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#331753: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:58:52 PM

Yes. Has he ever acknowledged that it's a problem?

Yeah, pretty early on in the primary he spoke about how he’d messed up and intended to do better.

Edited by Silasw on Oct 5th 2020 at 10:59:37 AM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#331754: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:59:42 PM

I believe he has, and I remember that the women that did raised complaints against him said they didn't think he was sexually harassing them, just being, er, socially inept, let's put it like that.

Mind, this is all half-remembered from news that came from way back in March, I think, when the subject was first brought up.

[up][nja], mostly.

Edited by HailMuffins on Oct 5th 2020 at 8:00:29 AM

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#331755: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:03:46 PM

@Redmess: Well, I think it's a good sign of his dictatorial approach: Even in very clearly verifiable cases, he will make an official statement that lacks reality contact. Sure, he's lied before, a lot, but it's rare that he makes an official statement solely for the case of telling a lie. Usually the lie is part of some other context.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#331756: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:03:59 PM

From what I recall Biden has also admitted that he had a problem with respecting people's personal space, so he isn't unaware of the issue. I don't know if he's really been mindful of that since.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#331757: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:05:33 PM

Well, with COVID and everything, I'd imagine he had to learn the hard way.

Or never had the opportunity to screw up.

Whichever you prefer.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#331758: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:07:45 PM

I feel sorry for anyone trying to keep Trump from campaigning until the end of the quarantine period.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#331759: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:08:13 PM

And of course there was the rape accusation, but that doesn't seem to have actually gone anywhere or lead to anything for a number of reasons.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#331760: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:08:56 PM

Oh, and he's already back to trying to infect the entire White House. Immediately takes a mask off... ffs.

Real question is what happens once the steroid stops having an effect.

Edited by RainehDaze on Oct 5th 2020 at 12:09:57 PM

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#331761: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:10:23 PM

Because of course he did.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#331762: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:12:16 PM

The GOP has literally become a death cult, if it already wasn't one

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#331763: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:13:19 PM

And of course there was the rape accusation, but that doesn't seem to have actually gone anywhere or lead to anything for a number of reasons.

Indeed, I would say the reason it has died is because of how unreliable it turned out to be.

For those interested, Vox has a nuanced article that firmly convinced me against the accusation.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#331764: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:13:41 PM

[up][up]Only where Peoples Temple used cyanide, apparently the GOP is going for bleach.

Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 5th 2020 at 4:13:54 AM

ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#331765: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:14:11 PM

[up][up][up] The astronaut meme would work wonders here.

"Wait, it's all a death cult?" "Always has been."

Edited by ScubaWolf on Oct 5th 2020 at 7:14:22 AM

"In a move surprising absolutely no one"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#331766: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:15:32 PM

Yes, I changed my opinion on it as well. Why I'm voting for Biden.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#331767: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:16:28 PM

There is no way Trump isn't still infectious at this point. Hell, going by the timeline of other moderate-severe cases, his condition could worsen again.

If his COVID case is resolved by the time of the 2nd debate, I wonder what kind of shape he will in? Cause this virus kicks the shit out of you, even weeks or months later.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#331768: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:18:11 PM

I totally believe he's going to drop dead at some point. This isn't me scaremongering or wishing for it but I'VE HAD COVID-19. You do not go do activities and high stress if you want to survive this. I survived by taking it easy and I'm half his age.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#331769: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:20:40 PM

Dexamethasone has a half-life of about 6 to 7 hours. So the dosage he received this morning will probably wear out by tomorrow. There seem to be a lot of restrictions on what medicines can and cannot be taken at the same time as it, and of course Trump's doctors haven't been very transparent. So its not possible to say with certainty what his condition will be like 24 or 48 hours from now. But odds are . . . not good

Edited by Xopher001 on Oct 5th 2020 at 2:22:31 PM

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#331770: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:21:09 PM

It's baffling that he's been released, presumably still under the effects of a steroid which has uses in suppressing immune responses.

Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#331771: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:22:23 PM

Just looking at some of the long-term effects people have reported, including reduced lung capacity, permanently elevated heart rate and fatigue. No way in hell Trump is feeling better than he has in 20 years, unless he's absolutely doped up to the eyeballs on whatever drugs they treated him with.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#331772: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:22:44 PM

I imagine that the doctors responsible demanded that order in writing. And probably issued recommendations against it.

No reason they should get burned over this.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#331773: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:23:30 PM

Oh man. And from what I can tell, he’s still seriously ill.

This is going to be a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong week.

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#331774: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:25:45 PM

I have a feeling that he or at least someone close to Trump insisted on being released so that he doesn't die in some hospital like a weakling and would rather die looking strong in the White House.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#331775: Oct 5th 2020 at 4:30:31 PM

I think I’m just going to have to accept that I don’t know anything about Trump’s health or how well he’s recovering beyond the simple fact of “has COVID”.

Nothing that comes out of this White House is reliable.

I’m still stunned that the leaks were coming from his Chief of Staff. That’s the person in charge of, among other things, preventing leaks! Meadows has to know that he’s out of a job; Trump has fired people for far less.


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