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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Okay, pinkie swear, no more Democrat insults until after the election.
Cindy Lauper shall be my guide.
Here we are
Hanging on the strains of greed and blues
Break the chain then we break down
Oh it's nothing If you don't feel it
Unspoken expectations
Ideals you used to play with
They've finally taken shape for us.
Good enough
For you is
Good enough
For me
Is good enough
It's good enough for me
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 5th 2020 at 3:38:33 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.Then you have made a rather strange and confusing choice to start making your argument in the midst of a discussion about the idea that all politicians are bad.
I gave up absolute certainty for Trump’s actions long ago.
He’d probably want to invalidate a loss for ego reasons alone (before we get to presidential immunity being something he rather likes right now), but we can’t be sure.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran@Michael Katsuro: The wrinkle now—well, not just now—is that the office of the presidency is the one thing keeping him out of jail at this point, so despite the fact that he seems to clearly hate the job it still ensures he stays a relatively free man.
Edited by DavidMerrick on Oct 5th 2020 at 6:40:29 AM
Criticizing the Democratic party is perfectly ok.
In the political ambience, however, people have taken criticism of the only "not actually a shift flinging chimpanzee" party to be equivalent to a carte blanche approval of Trump because of several reasons chief among them "Oh god how can you be considering making things better when we are fighting for our survival!?!"
To be fair though, sometimes the criticisms of the left, and of Biden in particular, follow the exact same modus operandi that Trump followers fall for, and that is peculiar.
They are born of unsubstantiated claims that are borderline ridiculous (E.G: Chinese virus, Fake news, for the Trumpers. Biden is mentally deficient, Biden is a pedophile, for those "undecided") and they merely need to shriek them into the air a thousand times until it sticks to the wall by sheer virtue of how slimy the accusation is.
Edited by Aszur on Oct 5th 2020 at 4:47:30 PM
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothesThe thing about Democratic policy is getting good people in the primaries and showing that they can win. If centrist DINO policy is all that can win primaries and get elected, well, that's what we'll see. That's what encouraged me with the election of some quite progressive candidates. Can we keep the Overton window moving in the right direction? We'll see.
X7 I doubt it’s that so much as protecting the lives of other people (including themselves) is outside their remit. Their job is to protect the president, not themselves or people around the president, simply the president.
Now it’ll be interesting to see what happens if Trump wants to talk to Pence, as Pence’s Secret Service detail do have a responsibility to protect him from Trump should Trump be a potential threat.
Edit: The Biden pedo thing is based on the fact that Biden isn’t always respectful of personal space, combine that with a deep hatred of Biden and the ‘logic’ goes that if he’s violating a child’s personal space (which he has done) he must be a sexual predator.
Edited by Silasw on Oct 5th 2020 at 10:52:56 AM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranIf I had to take a wild stab in the dark, it's that he's very touchy-feely with women... And young girls.
And let's not lose sight of that, Biden is a waaaaay better candidate than Trump, but he's still got a nasty habit of touching women without their consent and occasionally very inappropriate situations... And getting photographed while doing it.
Fucking hell that's an uncomfortable interpretation of reality you got there. 'isn't always so good about respecting personal space' is a really weaselly way of describing his behaviour.
I know you don't mean it like that, but you're really minimizing the fact that the only male that Biden is regularly publically as touchy with as he is with women is Barrack Obama.
Now... Because of that I'm willing to believe that it's not malicious, he's not a pedophile, he's not even using an opportunity to grope women, he just thinks he's being friendly... And while that matters, it matters less than the fact that he is really touchy with women without their consent and not all of them are comfortable with that.
Edited by Robrecht on Oct 5th 2020 at 1:05:07 PM
Angry gets shit done.I always assumed that Biden was just as touchy with men, he seems like exactly the person who’d go strait in for a hug completely disregarding the fact that the other man might be expecting a formal handshake.
It’s an unconscious expression of privilege on Biden’s part, he’s probably not ever had to fear the touch of a stranger the way people in positions of less power often have. He’s almost certainly never been unable to tell someone to back off the way many people without power are.
Edited by Silasw on Oct 5th 2020 at 10:57:39 AM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran

I think that is a fair argument to have. I myself am a skeptical of how effective this 'high road' approach many Democrats have taken has been, making a point of following the rules while the GOP openly flouts them to cheat the system.
On the one hand, I can see why - if they stooped to the level of the GOP, that would essentially validate their methods and set a very bad series of precedents which would erode the country's faith in effective leadership.
On the other hand, from a pragmatic perspective, by taking the high road it can be argued, as I believe Charles is, that Democrats have allowed legislation to be passed which negatively effects everyone
Edited by Xopher001 on Oct 5th 2020 at 1:38:09 PM