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Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#331726: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:34:49 PM

I think that is a fair argument to have. I myself am a skeptical of how effective this 'high road' approach many Democrats have taken has been, making a point of following the rules while the GOP openly flouts them to cheat the system.

On the one hand, I can see why - if they stooped to the level of the GOP, that would essentially validate their methods and set a very bad series of precedents which would erode the country's faith in effective leadership.

On the other hand, from a pragmatic perspective, by taking the high road it can be argued, as I believe Charles is, that Democrats have allowed legislation to be passed which negatively effects everyone

Edited by Xopher001 on Oct 5th 2020 at 1:38:09 PM

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#331727: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:35:52 PM

Are we absolutely certain that Trump would want to invalidate a loss, once it's there? I don't doubt that he's doing what he can to win. But once the results are in, I think he might decide to accept the chance to escape a job that's tough at the best of times.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#331728: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:37:58 PM

Okay, pinkie swear, no more Democrat insults until after the election.

Cindy Lauper shall be my guide.

Here we are

Hanging on the strains of greed and blues

Break the chain then we break down

Oh it's nothing If you don't feel it

Unspoken expectations

Ideals you used to play with

They've finally taken shape for us.

Good enough

For you is

Good enough

For me

Is good enough

It's good enough for me

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 5th 2020 at 3:38:33 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#331729: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:38:56 PM

No, I'm not saying that all politicians are bad.

Then you have made a rather strange and confusing choice to start making your argument in the midst of a discussion about the idea that all politicians are bad.

Are we absolutely certain that Trump would want to invalidate a loss, once it's there?

I gave up absolute certainty for Trump’s actions long ago.

He’d probably want to invalidate a loss for ego reasons alone (before we get to presidential immunity being something he rather likes right now), but we can’t be sure.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#331730: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:39:12 PM

> Okay, pinkie swear,

dont go breaking Pinkie promises Charles,or you'll be stalked by a certain pony..

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
DavidMerrick from Ottawa, ON Since: Jun, 2018
#331731: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:39:27 PM

@Michael Katsuro: The wrinkle now—well, not just now—is that the office of the presidency is the one thing keeping him out of jail at this point, so despite the fact that he seems to clearly hate the job it still ensures he stays a relatively free man.

Edited by DavidMerrick on Oct 5th 2020 at 6:40:29 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#331732: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:40:13 PM

[up]

Biden is GOOD ENOUGH

For me

He's GOOD ENOUGH

For you

He's just GOOD ENOUGH, BARELYYYYY

OH WHY YI YI YI

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 5th 2020 at 3:40:24 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#331733: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:40:27 PM

Do we have any news on whether he has been discharged from Walter Reed yet?

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#331734: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:41:21 PM

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Oct 5th 2020 at 6:41:33 AM

i'm tired, my friend
Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#331735: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:41:23 PM

Nothing yet.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#331736: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:41:29 PM

Yeah, he's on Marine One.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#331737: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:44:49 PM

Now everyone in there is infected.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#331738: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:45:17 PM

Guess the Secret Service decided his actions weren't a significant threat to his own health.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#331739: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:46:39 PM

Criticizing the Democratic party is perfectly ok.

In the political ambience, however, people have taken criticism of the only "not actually a shift flinging chimpanzee" party to be equivalent to a carte blanche approval of Trump because of several reasons chief among them "Oh god how can you be considering making things better when we are fighting for our survival!?!"

To be fair though, sometimes the criticisms of the left, and of Biden in particular, follow the exact same modus operandi that Trump followers fall for, and that is peculiar.

They are born of unsubstantiated claims that are borderline ridiculous (E.G: Chinese virus, Fake news, for the Trumpers. Biden is mentally deficient, Biden is a pedophile, for those "undecided") and they merely need to shriek them into the air a thousand times until it sticks to the wall by sheer virtue of how slimy the accusation is.

Edited by Aszur on Oct 5th 2020 at 4:47:30 PM

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#331740: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:47:19 PM

[up][up] Or maybe they and/or Trump decided that their lives mean nothing.

Edited by SatoshiBakura on Oct 5th 2020 at 6:47:36 AM

PointMaid Since: Jun, 2014
#331741: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:48:05 PM

The thing about Democratic policy is getting good people in the primaries and showing that they can win. If centrist DINO policy is all that can win primaries and get elected, well, that's what we'll see. That's what encouraged me with the election of some quite progressive candidates. Can we keep the Overton window moving in the right direction? We'll see.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#331742: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:48:34 PM

This is like watching a train-wreck in slow motion. Things are only going to get crazier from here, SOMEHOW

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#331743: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:48:40 PM

I've seen the whole "Biden is a pedophile" thing in a few places; where did that come from?

Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#331744: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:49:26 PM

Most likely Qanon. "Pedophile" seems to be their go-to accusation of anybody they don't like (which is to say, anyone to the political left of Sauron).

Edited by Reflextion on Oct 5th 2020 at 6:50:12 AM

Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.
Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#331745: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:50:24 PM

I think it descended from Pizzagate. From my understanding there were some press photos of Biden with his family that were taken out of context

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#331746: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:50:30 PM

They claimed he owned an island close to Epstein or something,which is false

Edited by Ultimatum on Oct 5th 2020 at 10:51:02 AM

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#331747: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:50:44 PM

[up]X7 I doubt it’s that so much as protecting the lives of other people (including themselves) is outside their remit. Their job is to protect the president, not themselves or people around the president, simply the president.

Now it’ll be interesting to see what happens if Trump wants to talk to Pence, as Pence’s Secret Service detail do have a responsibility to protect him from Trump should Trump be a potential threat.

Edit: The Biden pedo thing is based on the fact that Biden isn’t always respectful of personal space, combine that with a deep hatred of Biden and the ‘logic’ goes that if he’s violating a child’s personal space (which he has done) he must be a sexual predator.

Edited by Silasw on Oct 5th 2020 at 10:52:56 AM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Robrecht Your friendly neighbourhood Regent from The Netherlands Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Your friendly neighbourhood Regent
#331748: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:52:01 PM

I've seen the whole "Biden is a pedophile" thing in a few places; where did that come from?

If I had to take a wild stab in the dark, it's that he's very touchy-feely with women... And young girls.

And let's not lose sight of that, Biden is a waaaaay better candidate than Trump, but he's still got a nasty habit of touching women without their consent and occasionally very inappropriate situations... And getting photographed while doing it.

[up] Fucking hell that's an uncomfortable interpretation of reality you got there. 'isn't always so good about respecting personal space' is a really weaselly way of describing his behaviour.

I know you don't mean it like that, but you're really minimizing the fact that the only male that Biden is regularly publically as touchy with as he is with women is Barrack Obama.

Now... Because of that I'm willing to believe that it's not malicious, he's not a pedophile, he's not even using an opportunity to grope women, he just thinks he's being friendly... And while that matters, it matters less than the fact that he is really touchy with women without their consent and not all of them are comfortable with that.

Edited by Robrecht on Oct 5th 2020 at 1:05:07 PM

Angry gets shit done.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#331749: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:56:32 PM

I always assumed that Biden was just as touchy with men, he seems like exactly the person who’d go strait in for a hug completely disregarding the fact that the other man might be expecting a formal handshake.

It’s an unconscious expression of privilege on Biden’s part, he’s probably not ever had to fear the touch of a stranger the way people in positions of less power often have. He’s almost certainly never been unable to tell someone to back off the way many people without power are.

Edited by Silasw on Oct 5th 2020 at 10:57:39 AM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#331750: Oct 5th 2020 at 3:57:17 PM

Yes. Has he ever acknowledged that it's a problem?

Do not obey in advance.

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