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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#330701: Oct 2nd 2020 at 4:36:42 AM

It's a strange world after all.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#330702: Oct 2nd 2020 at 4:40:22 AM

"I'm not sure Qanon would disappear so easily if Trump died. The movement has grown well beyond Trump, and beyond the US as well. It is not going away any time soon."

It doesn't have to. if it weakens and no longer has POTUS Support it would already be much better

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#330703: Oct 2nd 2020 at 4:44:53 AM

That is definitely true. I just think the movement is far larger than just Trump supporters at this point.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#330704: Oct 2nd 2020 at 4:48:20 AM

Nemesis is on the job.

Edited by Ramidel on Oct 2nd 2020 at 3:49:02 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#330705: Oct 2nd 2020 at 4:50:46 AM

This is a very, very bad year, yes.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#330706: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:16:50 AM

Now I actually want Biden to win. There’s no way we’re having a VP who believes in conversion therapy as our potential President.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#330707: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:19:14 AM

[up] Well, if that's what it takes... [lol]

Pence is a piece of work, that's for sure.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#330708: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:19:49 AM

I'm glad to hear you found a line in the sand there.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#330709: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:22:50 AM

@PurpleEyedGuma: Pence has already been dictating a lot from his seat as Vice President. Four more years of Trump or Pence will kill millions of Americans, whether it be via corona, concentration camps, destroying health care, banning abortion, and condoning police brutality and white supremacist terrorism - to say nothing of the impact on the environment, our infrastructure, foreign policy, and everything else.

I really can't overstate how important it is for Trump to lose this election.

It's been fun.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#330710: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:26:39 AM

What has Pence been doing? I haven't really heard much about him in the news. He tends to be overshadowed by the orange noise machine.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#330711: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:27:15 AM

There's something that I want to get off my chest about this whole situation.

Throughout the entire reign of Trumpism, Democrats keep being pinned down by this idea that we need to "take the high road", "stay civil", "be the bigger person". Not only must we demonstrate moral and ethical superiority in our actions, we aren't allowed to openly express our rage, pain, fear, and so on lest we be labeled "no better than" the other side.

There is so much pent up emotion in this country's left that we see it emerge frequently in self-destructive ways: depression, anxiety, infighting, this stupid "progressive vs. centrist" thing.

I'm tired of being told we aren't allowed to show exactly how we feel about what's happening in our country. Donald Trump deserves this, and anyone who follows his lead and contracts the virus deserves it. I still refuse to actively wish him ill, but I'm not, under any circumstances, going to pretend to be sad just because some fence-sitter patronizingly declares that it's "bad optics".

Okay, rant over. Whew.

Edited by Fighteer on Oct 2nd 2020 at 8:29:54 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#330712: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:33:22 AM

Hopefully, Trump gets the first-hand experience of what Covid-19 really is about and stop calling it a "hoax"

How is his fascist death cult taking the news?

minseok42 A Self-inflicted Disaster from A Six-Tatami Room (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
A Self-inflicted Disaster
#330713: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:35:35 AM

Pence tested negative for COVID-19

Edited by minseok42 on Oct 2nd 2020 at 9:35:53 PM

"Enshittification truly is how platforms die"-Cory Doctorow
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#330714: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:35:44 AM

Fighteer, just to be absolutely clear, I am not saying Trump does not deserve this, or that your emotions about it are not valid. He can drop dead the day after the inauguration for all I care, but not a day earlier, because what America needs right now is for Trump to be voted out of office and be defeated, unquestioningly, without any possibility of a "what if he had survived?".

My concern is not for Trump, my concern is for you people and your country. Please don't forget that.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#330715: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:37:01 AM

[up] At this point I'll take what I can get, the optics be damned. I appreciate the thought, however.

Edited by Fighteer on Oct 2nd 2020 at 8:37:17 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#330716: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:37:32 AM

@Redmess: That's intentional on Pence's part. However, from what's leaked, he does a lot of the actual work of the White House while Trump is trying to golf and tweet at the same time.

He's currently heading the WH Coronavirus Task Force.

Edited by Ramidel on Oct 2nd 2020 at 4:37:58 AM

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#330717: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:38:02 AM

If Trump dies on the campaign trail, which I doubt he will, the race becomes Biden against Pence. I don't know what those odds are like.

It's been fun.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#330718: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:39:42 AM

"Donald Trump deserves this, and anyone who follows his lead and contracts the virus deserves it. I still refuse to actively wish him ill"

I don't want to sound bad. But at times it just kinda feel we wish him I'll, just try to pretend it isn't because it is socially a bad thing.

But maybe that is just me.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#330719: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:41:33 AM

[up] You aren't wrong, but our civility rules absolutely prohibit saying it out loud. I'm not going to break those just for catharsis.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#330720: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:42:06 AM

It's only against forum rules if we say it directly.

It's been fun.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#330721: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:42:25 AM

The bad thing about Trump having COVID is that he has a legit excuse not to debate, and Biden debating an empty chair would look extremely petty - you don't pick on someone for having a physical illness even if they deliberately courted it.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#330722: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:43:10 AM

[up][up][up][up] I agree with that, and I do my best to avoid it, even with bad people. Wishing terrible things on people can poison your own mind and make you more okay with terrible things happening to people who may not deserve it, just because you think they are guilty. We see this way too much with people condemning the accused before they even had a trial and a chance to be proven innocent.

Edited by Redmess on Oct 2nd 2020 at 2:43:38 PM

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#330723: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:43:10 AM

The debates are meaningless circus, really. A show for the illiterate.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#330724: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:45:41 AM

[up][up][up] Actually, Biden will be in quarantine just the same for having been in contact with Trump during the debate.

Also, if anything, this may be a blessing in disguise for Trump, considering his performance in his first debate.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#330725: Oct 2nd 2020 at 5:55:50 AM

I saw it suggested early on that Trump was faking having COVID-19 just to get out of the debates.

I doubt it's likely, but you can't deny it's in-character for him.


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