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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#330526: Oct 1st 2020 at 7:28:57 PM

Just say you did. It's not like she can check.

And try to move out as soon as you can manage. And remember that line next time she comes knocking.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#330527: Oct 1st 2020 at 7:32:18 PM

Ballots are secret. Vote for whoever you want and lie if you have to.

Just say you did. It's not like she can check.

She legit said she'd fill out my mail-in ballet, I wouldn't put it past her to check, and I'm not a good liar.

And try to move out as soon as you can manage. And remember that line next time she comes knocking.

As much as I'd love to, I can't for a variety of reasons.

btw I don't want to derail this thread with my personal problems. Just wanted to share the hypocrisy of Christian Republicans.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#330528: Oct 1st 2020 at 7:34:16 PM

It's okay, don't worry.

And if you absolutely have no other choice, then just let her. One vote more or less is really not going to make the difference, and you can lighten your conscience with the knowledge you were forced to.

Or if you really want to have this blow up in her face, you could always have her indicted for voter fraud. Because, uh, what she's doing? That's very, very illegal.

Edited by Redmess on Oct 1st 2020 at 4:34:46 PM

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#330529: Oct 1st 2020 at 7:38:47 PM

I agree. If you are forced to vote for the Cheeto, don't feel guilty for it. None of us are gonna hold it against you knowing the situation you are in. Look out for yourself and be safe.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#330530: Oct 1st 2020 at 7:41:30 PM

I live in California, so it's not like my vote will matter due to the Electoral College and the state being pretty hard blue. So yay?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#330531: Oct 1st 2020 at 7:42:51 PM

Yeah, I'd say don't feel too bad about that. Just file the incident away in your mind as something to take into account, whatever you do later on.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#330532: Oct 1st 2020 at 7:44:20 PM

Ah yes, and I bet she doesn't realise that that is voter fraud.

If there's some sort of signature matching, could always screw up the signature deliberately.

Edited by RainehDaze on Oct 1st 2020 at 3:46:03 PM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#330533: Oct 1st 2020 at 7:51:01 PM

I live in California, so it's not like my vote will matter due to the Electoral College and the state being pretty hard blue. So yay?

It's a bad situation but this is correct, there are no bad consequences to following her (horrible) demands. Morally you have absolutely no culpability for voting for Trump in that context.

You have my sympathy that you have to deal with a parent like that sad

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#330534: Oct 1st 2020 at 7:54:36 PM

@Karxrida, your mother is probably committing a serious felony even before she attempts to look at/tamper with your ballot, FWIW. I'm unfamiliar with California law, but the secret ballot is taken serious more or less everywhere (at least on paper).

[down]Also this. Especially this. We are not experts.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Oct 1st 2020 at 11:57:28 AM

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#330535: Oct 1st 2020 at 7:56:41 PM

I would recommend reaching out to any local domestic abuse charities in your area for support, as being threatened in that way by someone you live with very much is domestic abuse, even if no physical violence occurs.

A domestic abuse charity can give you much better support and advise than we can.

Edited by Silasw on Oct 1st 2020 at 2:58:39 PM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#330536: Oct 1st 2020 at 8:12:08 PM

So my mom says if I don't vote for Trump then she'll kick me out of that house. Ain't that great.

The best part is in the same conversation she mentioned that I should go to church to show that I'm "grateful" for what she and my dad do for me.

She's clearly chosen between Trump and Jesus.

Re: Melania

And I've never understood why anyone assumed Melania was a good person. There was a weird THE GOOD FIGHT music video they made about how she was a poor, sad, lost woman who lost her way.

"When she ever have it?"

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 1st 2020 at 8:13:26 AM

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#330537: Oct 1st 2020 at 8:14:21 PM

They do have to have a signature match. So even if she forces you to sign it, just make your signature different from what you usually do and they'll toss it out.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#330538: Oct 1st 2020 at 8:21:46 PM

President Trump and Melania are in quarentine after Hope Hicks tests positive.

Karma's a bitch.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#330539: Oct 1st 2020 at 8:25:40 PM

Please tell me he doesn’t get his phone in quarantine? Last thing we need is 14 days strait of rage tweeting.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#330540: Oct 1st 2020 at 8:29:11 PM

Don't hold out Hope on that front.evil grin

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#330541: Oct 1st 2020 at 8:35:13 PM

Donald Trump in quarantine after top aide tests positive

US President Donald Trump has been tested for the coronavirus after one of his closest aides was confirmed to be positive for COVID-19, the US president said on Thursday night.

In an interview with Fox News, Trump confirmed that senior aide Hope Hicks had tested positive for the virus. The US President and his wife Melania Trump are now awaiting the results of their own tests.

After the interview, Trump announced on Twitter that he and Melania will "begin our quarantine process" while waiting for their results.

"Hope Hicks, who has been working so hard without even taking a small break, has just tested positive for Covid 19. Terrible! The First Lady and I are waiting for our test results. In the meantime, we will begin our quarantine process!"

Hicks spent a substantial amount of time in close proximity with Trump this week, including traveling with him to a campaign rally on Wednesday, the Associated Press reported, citing an administration official.

She also traveled with Trump several other days this week, including on board the presidential helicopter Marine One as well as on Air Force One.

Hicks, who serves as a counselor to Trump, is the most senior White House official to so far test positive for COVID-19.

White House aides tested daily

The White House issued a statement saying that steps are taken to limit potential coronavirus exposure to the president.

After several earlier positive cases close to the president, the White House began conducting daily tests for Trump's senior aides and anyone else in close proximity with the president or vice president Mike Pence — including reporters.

"The President takes the health and safety of himself and everyone who works in support of him and the American people very seriously," White House spokesperson Judd Deere said.

The virus has killed over 200,000 people in the United States, making it the world's highest death toll. Over 7.2 million people in the US have been infected with the virus so far.

Trump has been criticized for his response to the pandemic, including playing down the threat and refusing to abide by public health guidelines — including wearing masks.

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#330542: Oct 1st 2020 at 8:57:49 PM

Here's a direct link to Trump's tweet mentioned above.

I give him a day before he goes stir crazy.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#330543: Oct 1st 2020 at 8:59:30 PM

Legally, I don't think Karxrida's mom is strictly committing voter fraud, but rather voter intimidation, which is also a felony and may result in a monetary fine and up to a year in prison.

Edited by Balmung on Oct 1st 2020 at 10:59:52 AM

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#330544: Oct 1st 2020 at 9:01:45 PM

Yeah, I was confused there and went digging around to see what the relevant law is. Trying to prevent someone from freely casting their vote for whatever candidate they chose is voter intimidation.

It's a federal crime regardless of any applicable state laws, for one.

Edited by RainehDaze on Oct 1st 2020 at 5:02:08 PM

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#330545: Oct 1st 2020 at 9:02:58 PM

CNN: The leader of the Proud Boys is also the leader of the grassroots Latinos for Trump.

I'm also hearing he's a first generation Cuban immigrant.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#330546: Oct 1st 2020 at 9:03:33 PM

Messing up your signature is a decent idea if she fills out your ballot. If she fills out your ballot and signs it... try to record her doing it, I guess?

It's been fun.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#330547: Oct 1st 2020 at 9:08:30 PM

Regardless, Karx, try to look up any professional that can give you advice before trying to do anything, I doubt many of us here are qualified.

Edited by HailMuffins on Oct 1st 2020 at 1:29:01 PM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#330548: Oct 1st 2020 at 9:11:58 PM

I'd be more shaming her about such an awful action. She needs to know she's engaged in fraud for a rapist.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#330549: Oct 1st 2020 at 9:16:48 PM

I will second asking a more professional opinion on the matter first.

Do not let us, a bunch of Internet forum people, be the ones to help you decide a matter of such familial, moral, legal, and political importance.

Disgusted, but not surprised
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#330550: Oct 1st 2020 at 9:22:12 PM

Agreed

Do not obey in advance.

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