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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#330101: Sep 30th 2020 at 8:01:32 AM

Trump folds constantly. Repeatedly, he sulks offstage when challenged, he's petulant and he mostly attacks women. He's used to getting his way by blustering, whining and screaming because he's been born into immense wealth and privilege.

[up] Wait, what? Beau Biden died in 2015

Edited by Lightysnake on Sep 30th 2020 at 8:02:30 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#330102: Sep 30th 2020 at 8:02:59 AM

[up]He then proceeds to deny he ever caved afterwards.

And his base buys it. Probably because they engage in similar behavior. And/or because they don't want to admit that they voted for such a chickenshit loser.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#330103: Sep 30th 2020 at 8:04:18 AM

So do Wrestlers but they still show up next round with fans lauding their srength and "coolness".

Trump's "coolness" and "strength" perception comes from the fact he hoards such atention and "makes the libs cry". That alone means, to some people, he is a strong winner. Because that is the goddamn culture of the U.S.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
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The Shadow
#330104: Sep 30th 2020 at 8:08:21 AM

Unsurprisingly, Amy Coney Barrett has refused to recuse herself from any cases involving the upcoming election: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/29/amy-coney-barrett-recuse-election-cases-423248

This may not be a surprise, but it is extremely worrisome. Biden needs to win in a landslide or we are in serious trouble

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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#330105: Sep 30th 2020 at 8:14:37 AM

If the election is decided in the courts, then that proves once and for all that Trump gives a complete shit about the voices of the entire american people.

And a president not elected by the people, is not a president at all, but a 100% tyrant if he remains in power afterwards.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#330106: Sep 30th 2020 at 8:15:49 AM

At this point what further proof do you need to know that Trump doesn't give a fuck about people at all.......?

He never has...

He doesn't follow normal logic. His voters never will.

Edited by Aszur on Sep 30th 2020 at 9:16:11 PM

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#330107: Sep 30th 2020 at 8:21:31 AM

Wait, what? Beau Biden died in 2015

Correction, it was about Biden's late wife and daughter.

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#330108: Sep 30th 2020 at 8:30:27 AM

If the election is decided in the courts, then that proves once and for all that Trump gives a complete shit about the voices of the entire american people.

And a president not elected by the people, is not a president at all, but a 100% tyrant if he remains in power afterwards.

Everyone already knows that. It's not a victory to find new opportunities to call a dictator a dictator.

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#330109: Sep 30th 2020 at 8:41:04 AM

[up] Just saying it considering that his cult either doesn't know, or are perfectly fine with burning America to the ground and let it end in their generation.

Then again, the odds for any of those being around here, is minimal at the most generous estimate...

singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#330110: Sep 30th 2020 at 8:43:15 AM

TRUMP - I Brought Back Football.

NFL - Steelers vs Titans postponed due to a significant number of positive Covid tests amongst Titans' players and coaching staff.

Edited by singularityshot on Sep 30th 2020 at 8:45:02 AM

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#330111: Sep 30th 2020 at 8:45:25 AM

I love how Trump isn't even pretending not to pander to the Lowest Common Denominator. "Fuck COVID, I wanna watch football!" says the beer-swilling, spouse-abusing man unironically wearing a MAGA hat.

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#330112: Sep 30th 2020 at 8:57:28 AM

And this is after the hullabaloo in regards to people being pissed at all of the teams protesting the National Anthem during the preseason games.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#330113: Sep 30th 2020 at 9:07:47 AM

[up][up] Well, maybe not if he said it that crassly. grin

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devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#330114: Sep 30th 2020 at 9:11:01 AM

"Just saying it considering that his cult either doesn't know, or are perfectly fine with burning America to the ground and let it end in their generation."

His cult knows. and yes, they want to burn down America. The Qanon part believes that the dems are satanic jewish pedo vampires. The white supremacist part believes that the dems will open the floodgates for orcs, whom in their eternal gratitude will perpetually vote democrat and eradicate the white race. The evangelical part believes that the dems want to outlaw god and turn everyone into gay hedonistic sinners. the party votes care only for the party, and as long as their team is in charge, things are good. If their party is perpetually in charge that's even better. The bottom liners only care about whether they are richer today than they were yesterday. Feudalism is their preferred form of government, as long as they are the feudal lords.

They see this fight as existential and see no limit to the tools they need to use to ensure a future for them.

and i deeply, deeply wish i was kidding. They don't even hide it, most of the time you can just... ask.

EDIT:

shit i forgot the fascist, who believe America was better when the non-whites didn't complain so much, and just lived according to their god-given role* with their god-given genes**.

  • that role being slaves, serfs and servants

    • those genes being dirty inferior muck that's better eradicated today than tomorrow.

Edited by devak on Sep 30th 2020 at 6:13:53 PM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#330115: Sep 30th 2020 at 9:13:34 AM

Wait, really? Qanon is aiming for the end times? I don't think even fascists are that extreme.

I mean, fascists generally don't really have a goal for when the eternal War against the Enemy is over, and no fascist has ever solved that conundrum, but they generally do want to country to continue existing, if only for themselves.

Wait... orcs?

Edited by Redmess on Sep 30th 2020 at 6:14:41 PM

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#330116: Sep 30th 2020 at 9:15:37 AM

[up][up] Well, maybe not if he said it that crassly. grin
Correction: Especially if he said it that crassly.

devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#330117: Sep 30th 2020 at 9:16:20 AM

Qanon believes, among other things, that the democrats are harvesting blood from children to perpetuate their lives. Also they do other stuff to those children. This is also a global network, who secretly are behind every evil ever. They also worship satan.

At the core however they're just evangelicals dying to get to the rapture so all the dirty filthy non-white-non-christians will get punted off the (flat) earth by God, straight to hell to suffer eternally.

They also believe Trump is superman fighting against this magical evil.

I wasn't joking about satanic pedo vampires.

Also, they're jews part of the global jewish conspiracy.

"Wait... orcs?"

White supremacists love to paint LOTR orcs as refugees. No further explanation needed.

Edited by devak on Sep 30th 2020 at 6:18:13 PM

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#330118: Sep 30th 2020 at 9:18:05 AM

I knew about the secret pedophilia aspect of Q but I didn't know vampirism had been thrown in the mix as well. That would be almost funny if it wasn't for the fact there are now political candidates who actually believe in it running for office.

devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#330119: Sep 30th 2020 at 9:19:06 AM

Qanon is morphing at a terrifying rate. It's basically the all-consuming conspiracy, folding in all other conspiracies. You name something, it's probably part of Q. It's quite telling that all the Flat Earthers just switched to Q.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#330120: Sep 30th 2020 at 9:19:33 AM

I honestly can't tell any more what is real and what isn't from your posts, Devak, not because I don't believe you, but because it all sounds like insane ramblings to me.

But I do believe you, because I saw a woman (in the Netherlands!) say that line about Democrats drinking blood to rejuvenate with a straight face to a reporter last week. Just wow...

And these people are cagey as hell, by the way. One just kept repeating a line about pedophiles being bad and god being good or something, like a mantra against criticism. That right there is brainwashing in action.

That is fucking scary.

Edited by Redmess on Sep 30th 2020 at 6:20:15 PM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#330121: Sep 30th 2020 at 9:20:28 AM

Most, if not all, conspiracy theory sounds like insane ramblings when you really get into it.

Edited by sgamer82 on Sep 30th 2020 at 9:20:42 AM

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#330122: Sep 30th 2020 at 9:21:44 AM

I'm guessing there's a feedback loop of sorts involved. Q was already getting bigger on its own, thusly becoming more influential, so other conspiracy wanks throw their lot in with them, increasing the influence even more.

It's not worth it to deliberate on this too much but it's hard to imagine the mental gymnastics required to think that donald trump of all people would fight against secret pedophile cabals even if they existed and knew about it.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Sep 30th 2020 at 1:23:48 PM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#330123: Sep 30th 2020 at 9:22:59 AM

I remember a time when conspiracies sounded more coherent than that, though. It used to be "aliens built the pyramids!" "aliens abducted me!" "I saw the ghost of Elvis!". They were crazy, but they at least had an internal logic to them.

This breed of conspiracy though, it's like a whole new level of crazy.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#330124: Sep 30th 2020 at 9:23:36 AM

The vampirism is likely adapting the antisemitic blood libel, if I had to guess. Along with every other "secret cabal of global elites" hallmark.

It's been fun.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#330125: Sep 30th 2020 at 9:24:12 AM

These people's delusion knows no end. I remember when the 2018 midterms came around the secret Q people predicted there would be a "red wave" that would wash out the democrats somehow and they seriously expected that to happen, despite the tangible evidence that favored democrats by a good margin. There was some serious BSOD'ing when they discovered that no, the polls were right.


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