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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#329051: Sep 26th 2020 at 2:42:57 AM

Maher is very much anti-Trump, but yeah, he is difficult to place politically. I think he is a liberal, he just hates a very particular kind of liberal.

Remember what I said about how in Europe the Democrats would be a bunch of parties that don't always see eye to eye with each other on things? Maher is basically that.

Edited by Redmess on Sep 26th 2020 at 11:44:42 AM

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#329052: Sep 26th 2020 at 2:50:16 AM

@nova92 That name sounds a bit too close to tongue ass. Hopefully they won't have enough time to destroy the forest before January.

singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#329053: Sep 26th 2020 at 3:21:29 AM

I was basically wondering how economically conservative she will be? Culturally, you know she wants to throw the country into reverse, so questions there are election advertisement material and nothing more.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#329054: Sep 26th 2020 at 3:29:20 AM

She want to get rid of Obamacare, which seems like a thing to focus on.

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Eats moldy bread and flies into windows
#329055: Sep 26th 2020 at 5:24:11 AM

Is the GOP's official justification for wanting to kneecap public healthcare still 'something something handouts, something something welfare queens, something something pull yourself up by your bootstraps', or are they just not bothering anymore? Because the last four years is increasingly looking like 'that time the GOP just stopped making excuses'. :V

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#329056: Sep 26th 2020 at 5:38:00 AM

It's often the pretence of "Americans want a CHOICE of a healthcare provider so that they can choose the best one for THEM" never mind that the actual choice Americans face is whether they can afford their heart or diabetes medication that month.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
PointMaid Since: Jun, 2014
#329057: Sep 26th 2020 at 5:43:44 AM

Or never mind that HMOs limit who you can see that they will pay for.

Which seems less likely to be an issue if the plan you have is one almost everyone has.

Edited by PointMaid on Sep 26th 2020 at 8:44:06 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#329058: Sep 26th 2020 at 6:04:08 AM

Maher isn't that difficult to put on the political spectrum. He's a very rich white liberal racist. He is ostensibly a progressive but he has no interest in attacking his privilege and that means heavy disdain for minorities (particularly religious ones) or taxing the rich.

I think he was humorously described once as what conservative voters think most liberals are like.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Sep 26th 2020 at 6:05:28 AM

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#329059: Sep 26th 2020 at 6:21:13 AM

Yeah he’s the caricature of Hollywood Liberal giving living form, with a dose of bigotry towards religious people and young people thrown in (dear god is the man ageist).

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#329060: Sep 26th 2020 at 6:22:55 AM

Isn't he the guy who once said that superhero movies got Trump elected, or am I thinking of a different Bill?

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#329061: Sep 26th 2020 at 6:28:20 AM

Yes, Bill said that manchildren and childish adults elected Trump then pointed to the popularity of superhero movies as a reason for it.

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Kardavnil The Polisci Majoris from Sweden Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#329062: Sep 26th 2020 at 6:37:36 AM

Yeah, cause it sure is the Boomer generation who enjoy superhero movies the most... -_-

Edit: But seriously, isn't Disney and its properties mostly hated by trumpeteers, due to "ruining" movies by "cramming" in diversity everywhere, thereby (somehow) contributing to the fall of civilization?

Edited by Kardavnil on Sep 26th 2020 at 6:41:35 AM

Roll a Constitution saving throw to make it through the year.
GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#329063: Sep 26th 2020 at 6:40:56 AM

He's so out of touch - and not to mention sexist. I seem to recall that he never married because he perceived that marriage emascualated all his friends who tied the knot and he wanted to stay a stallion, or some shit...

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#329064: Sep 26th 2020 at 6:51:01 AM

Like I said, he's an old rich white bigot. He's just a guy who likes weed and women having reproductive rights.

Not remotely unusual.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#329065: Sep 26th 2020 at 7:12:23 AM

I'm no expert on Bill Maher, but afair he opposes religion as a concept, he was never racist against any minorities directly.

In this regard, I am quite similar, I oppose any kind of religion, but I would never discriminate any peaceful practitioner of faith.

But like I said, no expert.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#329066: Sep 26th 2020 at 7:14:56 AM

He's more Islamophobic than anti-Arab (a great deal of Arabs are Christians), but some of it bleeds together.

So recently news has been going about that Amy Coney Barrett belongs to the ultra-orthodox Catholic group called the People of Praise, and that some people have attributed them as inspiration for the villains from The Handmaid's Tale, but apparently that's not true and the real inspiration were the similarly-named People of Hope.

Edited by AlleyOop on Sep 26th 2020 at 10:16:17 AM

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#329067: Sep 26th 2020 at 7:26:55 AM

Bill Maher needs a lot more nuance in his views on religion — if he's going to criticize religion, he shouldn't just go away low hanging fruit like Islamic fundamentalism or the Christian Right. The former gets co-opted by the right against Middle Eastern people and peaceful Muslims and the latter allows left wing Christians to outflank them on social policy, etc. while still keeping religion in the public sphere. I agree with him that religion, belief in a deity, etc. is mostly just nonsense and that the minimization of religion in our public and private lives will be a net good, but if you're going to popularize atheism, you need to set a good example first.

As for his political alignment, I think he's more or less a liberal, but I think he's latched on to the perceived ascendance of PC outrage culture as a reason to criticize the modern left.

"It's often the pretence of "Americans want a CHOICE of a healthcare provider so that they can choose the best one for THEM"

Americans literally never do this. They're resigned to the insurance their employer gives, usually, which means they're forced to stay at a job they hate or have to leave a job they love because of the plans provided. I don't think I've ever met anyone who genuinely shopped around for health insurance like they're comparing prices at a supermarket.

Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Sep 26th 2020 at 10:37:56 AM

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#329068: Sep 26th 2020 at 8:12:18 AM

Maher is an Islamophobe and a germ theory denialist, among other things.

Leviticus 19:34
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#329069: Sep 26th 2020 at 8:51:15 AM

Maher is mostly a waring or being outdate, he was relevant a decade before when islamic terrorism was thing and while people debate about being polite or even the idea that some things should be sacred or no, he is pretty much a un-PC left liberal, which got more outdated the moment the left decide that wasnt a thing anymore.

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Overlord Since: Mar, 2013
#329070: Sep 26th 2020 at 8:55:46 AM

Maher is a cynical Gen-Xer who thinks being politically incorrect is being edgy, like the South Park creators.

Also other countries just pity the US now:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/news/international/world-news/nations-either-loathed-or-respected-united-states-now-they-sympathise-with-it/amp_articleshow/78330469.cms

Edited by Overlord on Sep 26th 2020 at 8:56:14 AM

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#329071: Sep 26th 2020 at 9:01:10 AM

A terrifying idea popped up.

Trump said that he would "run the country like one of his businesses'" back four years ago right?

What is the US right now, globally, through the Trump Presidency?

One of, if not the most, followed "Reality-TV shows" there has ever been.

Think about that.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#329072: Sep 26th 2020 at 9:03:58 AM

Its not been lost on anyone how he's running the country and his administration like one of his businesses, believe me

Edited by Ultimatum on Sep 26th 2020 at 4:12:38 PM

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#329073: Sep 26th 2020 at 9:24:40 AM

[up][up][up]Well, pity's better than scorn, I suppose.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
raziel365 Anka Aquila from South of the Far West (Veteran) Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#329074: Sep 26th 2020 at 9:28:36 AM

No one offense to anyone but Maher sounds like that bad stereotype people have here of the Global North’s left wing.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
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#329075: Sep 26th 2020 at 9:29:52 AM

Pity is just Condescending Compassion.

i'm tired, my friend

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