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#328826: Sep 24th 2020 at 10:36:19 AM

> What are the chances that, if Trump loses, he'll just leave in a huff going, "Fine, I didn't want this job anyway"?

I was just thinking yesterday that if he manages to appoint a judge to replace Ruth He'll probably consider it mission accomplished,even if he loses the election he'll still have 'won'

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#328827: Sep 24th 2020 at 10:37:48 AM

I doubt it. Trump isn't about "his side", he's about him personally. If he loses the election, he'll be a loser, and that's what he's terrified about.

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#328828: Sep 24th 2020 at 10:55:43 AM

In a scenario where he loses this election, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump tries to run for president again four years from now.

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#328829: Sep 24th 2020 at 11:00:15 AM

The important thing to remember about Trump is that he is a coward and a generally lazy person. There is a very good chance that he'll just declare Biden's victory illegitimate and then immediately leave the White House to start a career ranting on OANN for the sake of enriching himself further.

That said, I'd strongly advise every American here to vote early if you can. I know I am.

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#328830: Sep 24th 2020 at 11:12:00 AM

If things get too hot for him he is liable to flee the country though.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
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#328831: Sep 24th 2020 at 11:30:21 AM

Trump running again in 2024?

Sure.

Assuming the courts don't drag him to the long-awaiting life-sentence hell of his own making that he has used the White House to cower in fear and hide in for these last four years first, that is.

Or his inherited genetic-dementia doesn't swallow him up in the fog of ages like it did with his father before that.

Or if his unhealthy lifestyle and obesity doesn't strangle his pump from all the fat gathering in his veins and arteries from all that junk food and lack of exercise before either of the other two happen as well.

He has been really busy digging his own grave during his lifetime, so to speak...

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#328832: Sep 24th 2020 at 11:33:36 AM

I don’t belive there’s anything blocking a person from running for president while in prison. Though he’d not be allowed to vote for himself.

[up][up] I suspect that the Secret Service might feel that fleeing the country would be dangerous for him, and in the interest of his own safety, stop him from fleeing the country.

Edited by Silasw on Sep 24th 2020 at 6:34:37 PM

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#328833: Sep 24th 2020 at 11:40:07 AM

And I don't believe Trump will go anywhere near prison.

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#328834: Sep 24th 2020 at 11:44:26 AM

[up]Unfortunately. If there was Justice in America he'd rot in an awful, violent prison where they put dangerous convicts for the rest of his life and all of his sexual assault allegations would be told to all the prisoners.

Edited by Wildcard on Sep 24th 2020 at 2:44:37 PM

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#328835: Sep 24th 2020 at 11:45:37 AM

New York State have openly stated that they’re going after him for his tax fraud.

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#328836: Sep 24th 2020 at 11:46:21 AM

[up] I don't think he'll go to jail for that.

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#328837: Sep 24th 2020 at 11:49:16 AM

If Trump, by some miracle, is ever jailed, he will never be placed in the general population. All other factors aside, He Knows Too Much. Which means isolation for the duration of his sentence.

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#328838: Sep 24th 2020 at 11:49:32 AM

I suspect that the Secret Service might feel that fleeing the country would be dangerous for him, and in the interest of his own safety, stop him from fleeing the country.

That would be hilarious if Secret Service in their bid to protect him ended up ensuring he couldn't flee the country and ended up in jail or something, especially because the law that allowed Secret Service to still stick to Presidents was signed by Obama.

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#328839: Sep 24th 2020 at 11:51:23 AM

Considering the way Trump has reported treated the secret service and the fact that they are loyal to the constitution, I’d expect it to be less them genuinely doing it to protect him and more them finding protecting him to be a very handy justification for stopping him fleeing the country.

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#328840: Sep 24th 2020 at 11:52:39 AM

Who's dumb enough to treat your bodyguards like crap, seriously.

Rhetorical question. Don't answer it.

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#328841: Sep 24th 2020 at 11:55:03 AM

Assuming he does lose the election. I'm not to hopeful for the Swing states to make the correct choice but we've argued that before. I'll just say I hope Trump gets what he deserves.

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#328842: Sep 24th 2020 at 12:05:43 PM

"I really don't know what Republicans will think is in their self-interest at this point. "

Power. Nothing but power. They stopped trying to convince people ages ago. They know their politics is outdated and unpopular. They know they are doomed to die. Because unlike a normal healthy party, they refuse to change with the electorate. And so, they have chosen to game the system as hard as they can, attain as much power as they can, all to remain relevant as long as they can. But it's the death throes of an obsolete party.

they court the far right and fascism because it's the only option where they can maintain power. They float election stealing, third terms and whatnot because they have no other choice. With immigrants, they believe they're forever loyal to the democrats (which is hilariously inaccurate), with new states they believe they'll forever be loyal to the dems. They've given up as a party.

The only way for the current GOP to survive is to attain enough power that the democratic system cannot overturn it, and to retain influence for as long as they can if that fails. It's why they put everything on the courts, because that's likely to stay for a long time.

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#328843: Sep 24th 2020 at 12:10:28 PM

New York seems to get ready to get Trump the Capone treatment the moment he's our of office

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#328844: Sep 24th 2020 at 12:24:30 PM

I believe that Capone was done for federal tax fraud though, does anyone know the sentencing guidelines for state level tax fraud in New York?

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#328845: Sep 24th 2020 at 12:30:49 PM

In its most serious guise, minimum of three years in jail with a maximum sentence of 25.

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#328846: Sep 24th 2020 at 12:31:26 PM

It's easy enough to say that we shouldn't panic, but really, what else should we feel at this situation? And if not now, then when should we panic?

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#328847: Sep 24th 2020 at 12:32:38 PM

[up]Never panic as long as there is still a move we can play.

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#328848: Sep 24th 2020 at 12:35:41 PM

I’ve never found panicking to be particularly helpful in a crisis situation, so my suggestion for when is never.

As for what one should do, it depends on ones position and abilities. For the US citizens in the thread I’d recommend voting, campaigning, donating and contacting representatives.

For those of us from abroad, I guess we could contact our own government representatives and ask for them to put pressure on our governments to monitor the US elections and put international pressure on the US to ensure a peaceful transition of power.

International recognition of a Biden win might well help kneecap any elector shenanigans that Trump wants to try.

Edited by Silasw on Sep 24th 2020 at 7:37:00 PM

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#328849: Sep 24th 2020 at 12:41:30 PM

I mean. Really the answer is that panic is only a useful response if you are in immediate physical danger.

But perhaps it's more helpful to say 'you shouldn't panic about things that you, personally, have no ability to affect.' And generally asking yourself what you can do about something is a better idea than panicking.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#328850: Sep 24th 2020 at 12:43:55 PM

Also sharing pro Biden media where your US friends can see it. Multiple polls have shown that potential new voters are more likely to vote, and vote for Biden, when they hear more positive messaging about Uncle Joe than negative messages about Trump.


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