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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#328601: Sep 23rd 2020 at 7:31:49 AM

Why would they kill their own bill?

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#328602: Sep 23rd 2020 at 7:40:52 AM

[up] It was too blatantly evil and corrupt to not even they could push it through without blowing themselves up in the process?

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#328603: Sep 23rd 2020 at 7:44:34 AM

It didn't pass because the Democrats opposed it because it was even more watered down than the last Republican relief bill, so they didn't have 60 votes to get it through.

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#328604: Sep 23rd 2020 at 8:00:46 AM

Mitch only allowed that thing onto the floor so that some of the Republicans that are seeking re-election can say they did SOMETHING but the Mean Ol Dems stopped them.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#328605: Sep 23rd 2020 at 9:10:41 AM

Also, it mostly focused on giving money to corporations and providing liability immunity, so it didn't even count as "better than nothing".

Kardavnil The Polisci Majoris from Sweden Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: In my bunk
The Polisci Majoris
#328606: Sep 23rd 2020 at 10:09:59 AM

@Ultimatum: Corvid relief bill? I'd be all for that, corvids get way too much shit [lol]

[down] Well played tongue

Edit: more on-topic, what's the likelihood of Moscow Mitch ever suffering any consequences for all the evil shit he's done? Is there anything at all that he could possibly be charged with, or is he one of those immensely frustrating people who you know has blood on his hands, but he's technically not done anything illegal?

Edited by Kardavnil on Sep 23rd 2020 at 10:15:11 AM

Roll a Constitution saving throw to make it through the year.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#328607: Sep 23rd 2020 at 10:14:22 AM

They get away with 'murder'

Edited by Ultimatum on Sep 23rd 2020 at 5:14:36 PM

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#328608: Sep 23rd 2020 at 10:23:29 AM

The Democrat strategy is obvious right now: make the GOP look like shameless partisan hypocrites and not give any appearance of "we'd do the same" since the media LOVES a "same thing both sides" story.

People need to stop thinking that just because they don't come out and give a strategy right off that they've committed to signing a blood oath not to

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#328609: Sep 23rd 2020 at 10:25:56 AM

Also the SC is going to hear another attempt to repeal the ACA soon. Democrats need to be yelling from the top of every mountain in the country that another Trump pick WILL take away your healthcare.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#328610: Sep 23rd 2020 at 10:28:40 AM

Specifically, the preexisting conditions portion.

Also, "ever having covid antibodies" counts as a preexisting condition.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#328611: Sep 23rd 2020 at 10:44:37 AM

Right. Biden - all of us, really - need to turn this the SC into the 2018 healthcare message on steroids.

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#328612: Sep 23rd 2020 at 11:20:25 AM

You're assuming that the Trump dominated SCOTUS won't back him in anything he wants including overturning the election.

Trump delenda est
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#328613: Sep 23rd 2020 at 11:27:10 AM

We'll burn that bridge when we come to it. Right now, the last thing we need to be saying to people is anything that even sounds like, "It's a waste of time to vote 'cause Trump will just steal the election anyway, so don't even bother going out in November."

Vote like your life and the lives of people around you depend on it. They actually might.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 23rd 2020 at 11:27:53 AM

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#328614: Sep 23rd 2020 at 11:37:31 AM

Pete Buttigieg is standing in for Pence at Harris' practice debates.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#328615: Sep 23rd 2020 at 11:46:30 AM

That amuses me.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#328616: Sep 23rd 2020 at 11:57:09 AM

[up]x4 While there is a possibility of a repeat of Florida in the 2000 election, I don't think the possibility of the Supreme Court overturning an election that couldn't plausibly be overturned by a routine recount is even worth considering.

Neither of Trump's current appointees to the court are unthinking sycophants that will blindly rule in Trump's favor regardless of the situation (and indeed both have broken from Trump on a number of cases for one reason or another). They are both conservative certainly and a 6-3 conservative majority on the court will pose a serious, albeit not insurmountable, barrier to getting the policies the country needs put into place post-2020. But they certainly aren't going to declare Trump king.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#328617: Sep 23rd 2020 at 12:21:13 PM

Uh, no, just having had Covid is not a pre-existing condition. You could develop lung damage and other ailments from it, and those could be pre-existing conditions, but Covid itself would not count as such.

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#328618: Sep 23rd 2020 at 12:34:11 PM

You underestimate the greed of the insurance system. With the idea in mind that Covid causes damage to all sorts of different places in the body, any evidence of having caught Covid—i.e. antibodies—could be seen as an insurance risk. Therefore, if they aren't obliged to offer cover for pre-existing conditions, they won't.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#328619: Sep 23rd 2020 at 12:38:32 PM

Well, in some "good" news, the officer that killed Breonna Taylor has officially been indicted by the Grand Jury. Whether he'll be convicted remains to be seen, and it's kinda sad that just the indictment is a positive step... but that's why I phrased it as "good" news.

[down]

...fuck this entire year right in its ear.

Edited by ironballs16 on Sep 23rd 2020 at 3:41:50 PM

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#328620: Sep 23rd 2020 at 12:40:42 PM

[up] It's not good news; it's horrendous news actually. One of four Cops is being charged with reckless endangerment due to them shooting and accidentally hitting another person's apartment. No one is being charged for killing Taylor.

singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#328621: Sep 23rd 2020 at 12:43:26 PM

[up][up][up] Hang on, I know you are being somewhat spurious here but are you saying that having antibodies may be classified as a pre-existing condition? Because isn't it also a sign of immunity (for some diseases) - i.e. we all may end up with antibodies in our bodies thanks to a successful vaccine program, and thus would never of had full blown Covid-19?

Edit, needed another arrow.

Edited by singularityshot on Sep 23rd 2020 at 12:43:46 PM

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#328622: Sep 23rd 2020 at 12:44:47 PM

Might be classified as evidence of having had the disease. Of course, we don't know how long immunity will last, either.

astrokitty Happiness is a cup of tea from Somewhere Out There Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Happiness is a cup of tea
#328623: Sep 23rd 2020 at 12:47:56 PM

Pretty sure Republicans actively want to kill everyone at this point. Can't be voted out if there's nobody left to vote you out, right?

Somebody once told me the world was macaroni, I took a bite out of a tree
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#328624: Sep 23rd 2020 at 12:48:42 PM

Pretty sure Republicans actively want to kill everyone at this point.

Well, everyone except rich white guys.

Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#328625: Sep 23rd 2020 at 12:51:11 PM

The nihilist in me assumes that the Republicans know that they've fucked the world over and they want to make sure that when the situation spirals out of control, there won't be anyone left to punish them.


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