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#328376: Sep 22nd 2020 at 6:23:10 AM

@Hawk Nov 3rd is only voting day, he gets "elected" a few weeks later by the EC, then it's the Holidays and they do need a bit of time to organize move in and move out efforts.

Edited by 3of4 on Sep 22nd 2020 at 3:23:41 PM

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#328377: Sep 22nd 2020 at 6:28:37 AM

[up] I see. That's because the 2016 election in my country happened in summer. It is that surprising.

I'm forgetting but why Novemeber again for presidential elections in the US?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#328378: Sep 22nd 2020 at 6:28:42 AM

Oh right, US presidents basically get elected twice, first the popular vote, then the electoral college. The latter is the decisive one. This is where you get the bizarre situation that a candidate can win the popular vote but still lose the election or vice versa. And that in turn is why, at its core, the electoral college is undemocratic.

As for why November, the US has a fixed election date. It is always on that day. I don't know the historical reason, though.

Edited by Redmess on Sep 22nd 2020 at 3:29:44 PM

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#328379: Sep 22nd 2020 at 6:30:33 AM

[up][up]Because The Constitution says so.

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#328380: Sep 22nd 2020 at 6:33:23 AM

There other consideration for a lame-duck session is institutional push-back. While he retains the legal authority to order things done a lame-duck lacks the time to push things through and the long-term power to punish resisters.

Think how often things get delayed in large bureaucracies, it’s entirely possible that anything super crazy Trump would try to do as a lame-duck could get so bundled up in red-tape that it never happens.

As for the subject of how US elections are run, id say that the US is a pretty good example of a multi-state union like the EU growing organically into being one country but never properly updating the rules along the way.

[up] I’m not actually sure it’s in the constitution when electors are selected (when the electoral college votes is), I think it used to vary between states until congress passed a law to have a single Election Day.

Edited by Silasw on Sep 22nd 2020 at 1:34:44 PM

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#328381: Sep 22nd 2020 at 6:35:28 AM

The 'lame duck' period is, when the honor system works well, a period in which the leaving president can put his things into order, prepare the way for the next president to make the transition of power smooth and just generally make things easy for himself and the next president.

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#328382: Sep 22nd 2020 at 6:38:08 AM

Yeah 1845 is when congress set a single Election Day, due to the invention of the telegraph, before then each state could pick when to hold Election Day, as long as it was with a 34 day window leading up to the day the electoral college votes.

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#328383: Sep 22nd 2020 at 6:39:34 AM

If we're lucky, Trump will spend the time pouting in his garish contraption he calls a country club, and leave Pence to clean up the mess.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#328384: Sep 22nd 2020 at 6:50:47 AM

Trump has been dropping hints lately that he might just drop from the public sphere entirely during one of his rallies.

I can see him do that just as much as staying as a very loud opposition ex-president.

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#328385: Sep 22nd 2020 at 6:52:50 AM

[up] I don't buy that. Trump says a lot of things that turn out to be complete lies, especially about himself. If he loses, expect him to continuously complain about everything and belittle Biden until at least 2024, unless he's heading off to the slammer.

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#328386: Sep 22nd 2020 at 6:53:01 AM

Think Trump will suddenly start holding out for postal votes after all if he loses on election night?

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#328387: Sep 22nd 2020 at 6:53:14 AM

EDIT: Sorry, weirdness is happening on my end. Ignore this.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Sep 22nd 2020 at 9:53:55 AM

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#328388: Sep 22nd 2020 at 6:54:49 AM

Think Trump will suddenly start holding out for postal votes after all if he loses on election night?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#328389: Sep 22nd 2020 at 7:01:27 AM

If there is a single thing we can reliably expect Donald Trump to never do, it's willingly surrender the spotlight.

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#328390: Sep 22nd 2020 at 7:31:07 AM

Romney will vote for Trump's Supreme Court nominee, meaning everyone who could have been on the fence is now decided. As long as Trump nominates someone like Amy Coney Barrett or Barbara Lagoa (the two main names I've been hearing), he's going to get his third Supreme Court Justice.

Edit: Shelley Moore Capito, Mike Enzi, Mike Crapo, and Jim Risch will also vote for Trump's pick.

Edited by nova92 on Sep 22nd 2020 at 7:34:54 AM

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#328391: Sep 22nd 2020 at 7:32:05 AM

Do Mormons believe in Hell?

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#328392: Sep 22nd 2020 at 7:33:01 AM

The site is having hiccups today, it seems. I had odd behaviour too earlier today.

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#328393: Sep 22nd 2020 at 7:43:47 AM

> Do Mormons believe in Hell?

Spirit prison rather then Hell

Edited by Ultimatum on Sep 22nd 2020 at 2:51:07 PM

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A nice butterfly
#328394: Sep 22nd 2020 at 7:56:37 AM

So basically, he IS getting a Supreme Court Judge there. And Mitt Romney, once again, confirms he is a soulless hack.

Mondays, huh.

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#328395: Sep 22nd 2020 at 7:58:07 AM

Yeah this is pretty standard for Romney, his impeachment vote was the exception, not the rule. Hell I'm pretty sure the impeachment vote wasn’t down to a dislike of Trump and what he’s done, but due to the fact that at the start of the trial he swore an oath to god to consider the facts and pass judgment based off of them, he couldn’t vote Trump’s way without breaking an explicit oath to god.

Looks like we’re court packing come February if things go well.

Edited by Silasw on Sep 22nd 2020 at 2:58:44 PM

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#328396: Sep 22nd 2020 at 8:01:26 AM

May we all live in interesting times, damn it...

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#328397: Sep 22nd 2020 at 8:02:14 AM

Oh gee. The completely inevitable outcome is going to happen. Who could have possibly guessed.

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#328399: Sep 22nd 2020 at 8:03:23 AM

Who wants to bet they're not even gonna bother with a hearing, just a direct vote? Because now that they have the guaranteed votes, why bother dragging it out? Especially of the fear they're gonna become lame ducks come November.

The worst part is, with Romney saying he's gonna vote for the pick, it's definitely going to drag several Conservative Democrats with him (I'm looking at Manchin and Jones specifically).

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#328400: Sep 22nd 2020 at 8:04:08 AM

Both Jones and Manchin have said they wouldn't. Can't see them taking that back now.


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