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Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#328126: Sep 20th 2020 at 11:31:33 AM

[up][up]I get that, but I think it would be better if we didn't conjure up images of a civil war brewing every time someone sees a red hat.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#328127: Sep 20th 2020 at 11:42:19 AM

Biden coming out with a pretty amusing campaign ad

You know, if it weren't for the utter stupidity of Trump'supporters, this wouldn't even be a contest.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Sep 20th 2020 at 8:42:55 PM

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#328128: Sep 20th 2020 at 12:13:28 PM

Yeah, I saw that on Tumblr. Best political ad ever made, bar none.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#328129: Sep 20th 2020 at 12:27:27 PM

Only thing missing are Thug Glasses.

[up] EDIT: It's great, but I still prefer Honest Gil's ads

Edited by Forenperser on Sep 20th 2020 at 9:29:53 PM

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#328130: Sep 20th 2020 at 1:39:05 PM

Well it is a contest unfortunately. We can't act like Biden's victory is assured, he needs to sell himself.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#328131: Sep 20th 2020 at 2:05:19 PM

Biden: Acceptable under the circumstances

Maybe we can get the song "Goonies are Good Enough" from Spielberg as his campaign theme.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#328132: Sep 20th 2020 at 2:27:12 PM

It's satirical, but also more than a little true.

Is there anyone here who is genuinely enthusiastic about Biden as a president beyond "can beat Trump"?

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#328133: Sep 20th 2020 at 2:44:54 PM

I am positively surprised so far, but genuinely enthusiastic, no.

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#328134: Sep 20th 2020 at 2:49:05 PM

Some people probably are.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#328135: Sep 20th 2020 at 2:50:32 PM

Biden was my second choice in the primaries, but I'm pretty psyched to see him win. I definitely think he's moved beyond his original idea of being a caretaker president and genuinely wants to make things better than what they used to be for everyone.

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#328136: Sep 20th 2020 at 3:03:02 PM

While I’m not an American the idea of better healthcare access, improved voting rights, DC statehood, better worker protections/increased minimum wage, progress on combating climate change and similar all seem like reasonable things to be enthusiastic about.

People may not be that enthusiastic about Biden, but I’d say there’s plenty of reason to be enthusiastic about a Biden presidency.

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#328137: Sep 20th 2020 at 3:08:43 PM

Not American, but I'm enthusiastic about Biden being president. He respects and understands what the office means and has shown since the pandemic that he has goals if not being just a caretaker but willing to push the country more left

In optimistic news Pelosi has indicated she won't rule out Impeachment during the lame duck period to stop a vote for the SC from going forward. From what I've seen people say an impeachment trial trumps all other matters in the Senate and would have to get resolved before other votes go through.

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#328138: Sep 20th 2020 at 3:08:54 PM

Best thing I can say about Biden is that he has an open ear. Don't meant that in a snarky, snide way.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#328139: Sep 20th 2020 at 3:16:42 PM

I agree, it is a good thing that Biden is showing some actual ambition beyond being the caretaker, back to the status quo (read: Obama era) candidate.

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#328140: Sep 20th 2020 at 4:08:36 PM

Tbh, I always kind of liked Biden, knowing full well that he's kinda dopey and has a bad habit of not respecting boundaries. I liked the Obama/Biden friendship memes, and was sad when I realized they would come to an end when Obama left the White House.

That brings me to a point that no one seems to bring up. Obama and Biden seem to genuinely be friends. That's something I could never say about Trump and Pence, Bush and Cheney... I'm too young to remember if Clinton and Gore seemed to be friends.

Edited by BearyScary on Sep 20th 2020 at 3:09:16 AM

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#328142: Sep 20th 2020 at 4:15:06 PM

I'm much more enthusiastic then I expected to be. Not all because of Biden himself, but rather because of his left-ward movement. He's solidly earned my good faith tolerance, whether he lives up to it if he reaches the White House is something we hopefully will get an opportunity to see.

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#328143: Sep 20th 2020 at 4:16:48 PM

I like biden and at times I kinda get annoyed a some of the left to be mad at him because is not enough left for their taste, as it come as "you have to do more and be more".

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#328144: Sep 20th 2020 at 4:23:06 PM

I guess it's no surprise that recent Democrat President-Vice President duos got along better. Probably because loyalty (the friendship kind, not the servitude kind) pays off.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#328145: Sep 20th 2020 at 4:26:50 PM

I like biden and at times I kinda get annoyed a some of the left to be mad at him because is not enough left for their taste, as it come as "you have to do more and be more".

I'm ambivalent about it myself, on one hand, I completely understand why socialists wouldn't like Biden considering that they're socialist and he's not even a social democrat but I do wish they'd have more pragmatism. The US is in a really bad state, decent improvement is far better then the alternative.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 20th 2020 at 4:27:11 AM

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#328146: Sep 20th 2020 at 4:32:09 PM

he's not even a social democrat

Not like that would actually help, considering the hate boner some socialists still have for social democrats (something something Rosa).

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Sep 20th 2020 at 1:32:25 PM

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AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#328147: Sep 20th 2020 at 4:45:21 PM

I don't really know how helpful this train of thought is, considering that as liberalism and socialism are different ideologies criticizing one for not liking the other feels...I don't know, missing the point?

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#328148: Sep 20th 2020 at 4:48:36 PM

[up] It's not about not liking each other, the problem is when people would rather undermine the side that isn't bloody fascism because "it's not perfect".

Nobody expects socialists to get on board with liberalism or whatever, but the least they can do is not sabotage the only available option.

I've actually seen some people who identify as socialists who pretty much admitted: "Look, I don't agree with Biden, I don't like Biden, but what I definitely don't like is fascism - let's get rid of the fascists first and then try to push the Democrats more to the left".

It's about priorities, you could say.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Sep 20th 2020 at 1:49:56 PM

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nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#328149: Sep 20th 2020 at 4:48:48 PM

I know that Democratic candidates and organizations saw their donations SKYROCKET after the news broke. Anyone know if the GOP also got a surge?

@Rationalinsanity, WinRed, the GOP donation platform, doesn't have a public tracker the way ActBlue does, so it's impossible to know. But they aren't releasing any figures, which makes me suspect it's less. (ActBlue has raised nearly $120 million.)


Maybe Trump and the GOP don't need send law enforcement to intimidate voters and poll workers, just get Trumpites to do it instead: a group of Trump supporters blocked the entrance to an early voting site in Fairfax, Virginia. They've since been disbursed.

Another example of why the courts, including lower level ones, are important. A District Court let the consent decree that prevented a lot of this voter intimidation expire in 2018. Which means the Republican Party can now "monitor" voters at the polls.

AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#328150: Sep 20th 2020 at 4:50:01 PM

The post that started this was

I like biden and at times I kinda get annoyed a some of the left to be mad at him because is not enough left for their taste, as it come as "you have to do more and be more".

No crap they don't like him, a lot of Leftists are diametrically opposed to the policies he promotes (outside of being "not the fascist").

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer

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