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#327576: Sep 18th 2020 at 10:12:46 AM

As somebody who frequently uses Qooapp (an app store literally designed to let people play games and servers otherwise unavailable in their region), I won't be surprised to see Tiktok floating around on there. Still, I'm not sure how many people even know how to download apks outside of an app store.

Edited by astrokitty on Sep 18th 2020 at 1:14:14 PM

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#327577: Sep 18th 2020 at 10:13:43 AM

Or APK Pure. That one's more likely, qooapp is more game focused.

It's a completely meaningless gesture.

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#327578: Sep 18th 2020 at 10:14:06 AM

I feel like TikTok users are the type who would rather just find the next thing rather than jump through hoops to keep using it though.

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#327579: Sep 18th 2020 at 10:16:47 AM

Yeah, 99 percent of Tiktok users are not savvy enough to jailbreak their devices or use alternate app stores. Those alternatives are pretty damn skeevy, too. Not something I'd want to risk just to watch videos of idiots dancing to music.

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#327580: Sep 18th 2020 at 10:49:33 AM

[up] They don't really have to jailbreak or use other app stores. If you can find the APK online, you can literally download it onto your phone and install it, and you have full access to the program. It's so easy a child can do it.

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#327581: Sep 18th 2020 at 10:51:13 AM

[up]Well, that works for approximately 50% of the market. But even then, I still expect them to not care enough to go out of their way.

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#327582: Sep 18th 2020 at 10:56:28 AM

I mean more in general, since the US seems to systematically have issues with overcrowded polling places.

By and large the US doesn’t do election laws “in general”, elections are largely a state matter, it was a long time before the US even had a single Election Day, Election Day used to be on different days for different states.

Now should the democrats win they may push for such things, expanding voters right is on their agenda, but requiring a certain number of days of early-voting might be seen as overreach compared to broader things like renewing the voting rights act or putting limits on disenfranchisement.

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#327583: Sep 18th 2020 at 11:37:51 AM

Did anyone catch Biden or Trump's town halls? Or at least know the highlights? I didn't have time to watch.

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#327584: Sep 18th 2020 at 11:43:05 AM

I only saw some comments on twitter that Biden did well on his.

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#327585: Sep 18th 2020 at 12:09:27 PM

Biden's replies on questions about police didn't fill me with confidence, but he did well in other areas.

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#327586: Sep 18th 2020 at 12:16:59 PM

The Trump ABC town hall was another blowup on how incompetent he is when confronted with basic questions; similar to the Axios interview

At least the Secret Service hasn’t devolved like the actual Praetorian Guard did

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#327587: Sep 18th 2020 at 12:24:18 PM

[up][up]

He would at least be open to criticism of the police, rather than reflexively defending every action undertaken by them like Trump (and conservatives in general tend to).

[up]

The big example there was one of those asking a question actually telling the President of the United States not to interrupt her while she was talking.

Edited by ironballs16 on Sep 18th 2020 at 3:24:49 PM

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#327588: Sep 18th 2020 at 12:29:25 PM

[up]I realize that, I'm just worried his administration would end up promoting band-aid solutions that addresses symptoms rather than causes.

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#327589: Sep 18th 2020 at 12:33:23 PM

Anything done at a federal level is going to be a band-aid, real change on policing can only come at the city/county level.

Edited by Silasw on Sep 18th 2020 at 7:33:50 PM

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#327590: Sep 18th 2020 at 12:42:50 PM

@Parable: Trump didn't answer anything. Biden answered everything.

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#327591: Sep 18th 2020 at 12:58:41 PM

Biden offered answers and had a conversation. Trump lost a debate with nobody

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#327592: Sep 18th 2020 at 1:26:08 PM

Wait, there was a debate? How did it go?

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#327593: Sep 18th 2020 at 1:28:27 PM

Not a debate, but Biden held a CNN Town Hall last night, two days after Trump did. It's a pretty stark contrast, to put it extremely mildly.

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#327594: Sep 18th 2020 at 1:31:06 PM

[up]

It was a set of Town Hall forums each one put on - Trump did very poorly because it was not a Fox News-level audience.

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#327595: Sep 18th 2020 at 1:33:09 PM

Is that the one where Trump went off and started talking about how people at Fox should be sacked?

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#327596: Sep 18th 2020 at 1:33:25 PM

I'm surprised he even had one to be honest,he's prefers Trump rallies

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#327597: Sep 18th 2020 at 1:41:12 PM

Trump is incredibly bad at realizing that he's in something over his head. He believes that he can totally get into a town hall with an audience who is not going to drink up every word of his and will come out triumphant. He has no self-control about that kind of thing because he has a pathologic need to be in the spotlight and on TV.

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#327598: Sep 18th 2020 at 1:56:22 PM

Assange lawyer says she saw Trump ally offer to arrange pardon

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-assange-idUSKBN2691XD

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A lawyer for Julian Assange told a London court on Friday that she was present when an ally of U.S. President Donald Trump offered to arrange a pardon for the Wiki Leaks founder in return for information that would “benefit President Trump politically”.

Australian-born Assange, 49, is fighting to avoid being sent to the United States, where he is charged with conspiring to hack government computers and violating an espionage law over the release of confidential cables by Wiki Leaks in 2010-2011.

His lawyer, Jennifer Robinson, said in a witness statement to the court that she observed a meeting at the Ecuadorian embassy in London in 2017 between Assange and Republican then-U.S. Representative Dana Rohrabacher.

She said Rohrabacher and an assistant offered to arrange a pardon for Assange in return for information about the hacking of Democratic emails before the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

“They stated that President Trump was aware of and had approved of them coming to meet with Mr Assange to discuss a proposal – and that they would have an audience with the President to discuss the matter on their return to Washington DC,” she said.

“The proposal put forward by Congressman Rohrabacher was that Mr. Assange identify the source for the 2016 election publications in return for some form of pardon, assurance or agreement, which would both benefit President Trump politically and prevent U.S. indictment and extradition,” Robinson said.

Assange’s legal team first said at hearings in February that Rohrabacher had conveyed a pardon offer to Assange. At the time, the White House called the assertion that Trump had tried to reach a deal with Assange “a complete fabrication and a total lie”.

Rohrabacher said he had never spoken with the president about Assange, denied being sent on Trump’s behalf and said he was acting on his own when he offered to ask Trump for a pardon for Assange.

Robinson said Rohrabacher’s offer was presented to Assange as a “win-win” solution that would allow Assange “to get on with his life” and in return would also politically benefit Trump.

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#327599: Sep 18th 2020 at 1:58:25 PM

Man that whole thing with Trump sounds hilarious.

Like watching someone scream and rant at a cloud.

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#327600: Sep 18th 2020 at 2:08:12 PM

Or a chair

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