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ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#326576: Sep 8th 2020 at 11:26:21 AM

Remember Hillary was handicapped in debates since she couldn't afford to come across as 'mean' or 'shrill' Biden doesn't have that, he'll have no trouble smacking Trump down with a firm tone.

Earlier this year there MIGHT have been a worry but with COVID still around and the economy in shambles along with Trump getting more unhinged and incoherent with every speech, unless the Debate is SUPER Structured and Trump can be heavily prepped and coached it will not end well for Trump. He's always been weak in 'thinking on his feet' when it comes to answering questions and this has not improved.

Expect Trump's team to do everything in its power to try and structure the debate and try to get pre-approved/screened questions in only.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#326577: Sep 8th 2020 at 11:27:50 AM

[up]This is an excellent point, beyond Trump setting the bar as low as possible Biden also has the advantage of not having to deal with the gendered assumptions that others would throw Clinton's way.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 8th 2020 at 11:32:08 AM

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#326578: Sep 8th 2020 at 11:29:53 AM

And while Biden struggles with free for all debates, his historical performance in 1v1 formats is much better.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#326579: Sep 8th 2020 at 11:33:07 AM

Indeed, that's why I'm pretty excited about the debates. I can't wait for Biden to destroy Trump worse then he did Paul Ryan.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#326580: Sep 8th 2020 at 11:51:28 AM

I'm not sure where the fear for debates comes from. Trump can't give a straight answer to the most softball of questions from reporters. "What would you do in a second term?" got some incoherent rambling in stead of even the most generic, predictable answer of "make america even greater".

Trump does well when he's the only one talking and the crowd likes him. Force him to think and you just get a stream-of-consciousness mess where the consciousness part is equal parts mud and manure.

Edited by devak on Sep 8th 2020 at 8:52:00 PM

Arctimon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#326581: Sep 8th 2020 at 11:59:43 AM

About the polling: This always happens when we get closer to the election. Poll leads shrink. It's not surprising. The fact that they're not shrinking as much is actual news, though.

About the debates: It will depend on how the debate will run. If the moderators actually adhere by the time limit and cut people off when it hits, Biden'll be fine. If they let Trump trample all over them (which is a possibility), then that will be bad.

About Trump being a problem solver: The worst part is that he doesn't even have to be a problem solver, really. All he had to do is shut up and let the pandemic team do their jobs, and he can't even do that. He has to be involved in/profit off of every single thing, or else he gets mad.

Edited by Arctimon on Sep 8th 2020 at 3:01:02 PM

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#326582: Sep 8th 2020 at 12:11:52 PM

Is anyone else a little concerned going into the debates?

I would argue that the main concern with this is that the debates are supposed to try to convince people who are undecided. And at this point, if you are undecided between a literally neonazi avowed candidate and Biden, these undecided voters are particularly easy to sway and prone to misinformation, if not genuinely idiots.

There is not a single reason to vote for Trump yet it is an option these people are considering.

However as others pointed out, Biden has the massive advantage that he is not Hillary Clinton, and he does not have the baggage of decades of conspiracy theories badgering him. He is also not a woman (sadly, an electoral advantage), and I would also dare say that the divisions Trump sows may work against him.

BLM has plenty of support, and he keeps demonizing them. The only way BLM loses support is if they begin to crucify cops: and at this point its more likely someone crucifies a BLM rioter, scrawls "TRUMP" across their chest with their still-warm blood and then devolves into a hyper-racist modern rendition of "Dixie" under the Kekistan flag.

Frankly at this point Trump's best hope, is to inflame his supporters to commit more and more heinous crimes, shrug when asked to condemn them, and exagerate any BLM response (which will obviously be violent) since the Media will be all too happy to join in on showcasing the violence of the movement.

I want to say, given how some elections have gone across the world in these situations that it seems more likely Trump loses in a historical landslide, or wins by cheating again (with some exceptions such as the election of Bolsonaro), but frankly oft times the situations across borders are often dissimilar in several ways.

Addendum: Frankly, at this point, it feels a bit like that video where the cook Jamie Oliver shows children how chicken nuggets are made, where he grinds the least desirable parts of a chicken into a disgusting pink paste he then breads and fries unceremoniously. he then asks if anyone would still eat them. All the children raise their hands and he just looks so lost.

Edited by Aszur on Sep 9th 2020 at 1:18:28 AM

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#326583: Sep 8th 2020 at 12:29:20 PM

Well, yeah, chicken nuggets still taste good, despite how raw chicken looks. I mean, I can't say a raw slab of cold, slimy chicken breast looks all that appetizing either.

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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#326584: Sep 8th 2020 at 12:41:17 PM

The analogy is not perfect, but god damn Jamie looked sad.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#326585: Sep 8th 2020 at 1:04:17 PM

I don't really know why people think debates will go well for Trump. Trump is not a particularly good 1v1 debater, and quite possibly going into them expecting Biden to be senile.

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#326586: Sep 8th 2020 at 1:13:35 PM

Considering Trump's accusation of Biden being on drugs to be lucid, and with his habit of projecting, I am almost certain that Trump is gonna show up to the debates on drugs.

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#326587: Sep 8th 2020 at 1:25:26 PM

So a complaint about how different search engines first results bring up mob

https://mobile.twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1303288007357796353

I’m fucking howling

It’s incredible to see the replies being either lol or unironically agreeing with ‘Yes those dastardly libtards’

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#326588: Sep 8th 2020 at 1:28:10 PM

[up]Can you say what exactly is in the link? That is one click I’m not taking.

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#326589: Sep 8th 2020 at 1:32:31 PM

Complaining how Google is censoring information because a search for "Mob" in image search brings up Mob Psycho 100. [lol]

Edited by RainehDaze on Sep 8th 2020 at 9:33:03 AM

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Never Trust
#326590: Sep 8th 2020 at 1:47:23 PM

[up]x4 I'm still perplexed as to why Trump supporters keep accusing Biden of mental incompetence when their candidate has many times, both on Twitter and on video demonstrated that he's hard put to form a coherent sentence.

Edited by tricksterson on Sep 8th 2020 at 4:47:53 AM

Trump delenda est
Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#326591: Sep 8th 2020 at 1:51:17 PM

Probably similar reasons as to why they keep accusing Biden of corruption and nepotism: Extreme cognitive dissonance. And they can point to the actual radical left and go "see, the other side thinks so, too!"

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#326593: Sep 8th 2020 at 1:59:55 PM

Does Eric know that Google adjusts its results based on your browsing habits?

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#326594: Sep 8th 2020 at 2:05:40 PM

[up] I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say nope.

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#326596: Sep 8th 2020 at 2:45:31 PM

Oh, there was one result that wasn't a MP 100 screencap though - a photo of Trump from an article talking about his links to organised crime.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#326598: Sep 8th 2020 at 2:55:32 PM

I choose to believe that is true.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#326600: Sep 8th 2020 at 4:42:43 PM

He wants Mob to psychically make him the next Ronald Reigen, because his knowledge of English is faulty and he doesn't realize the names aren't spelled the same.


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