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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#326476: Sep 7th 2020 at 11:55:39 AM

Too bad that some of the money that Trump lacks is probably going to help the vermin in the Senate get reelected.

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#326477: Sep 7th 2020 at 12:01:26 PM

Some people are concerned that Biden is not doing enough in NC, and that the race is tightening significantly as of late.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/he-needs-to-come-warning-signs-for-biden-in-north-carolina-as-race-tightens/ar-BB18Mtol?ocid=msedgntp

It probably would be a good idea for him to be a bit more proactive, in my opinion.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#326478: Sep 7th 2020 at 12:02:16 PM

[up][up] How is the campaign lacking money going to help them?

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Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#326479: Sep 7th 2020 at 12:07:06 PM

[up] Perhaps in the sense of donors spending money on senate campaigns instead of presidential ones? At least that's how I parsed it.

Edited by Blueeyedrat on Sep 7th 2020 at 12:07:30 PM

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#326480: Sep 7th 2020 at 12:08:00 PM

Maybe the fear is that money will be concentrated on down ticket races?

[up][nja]

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Sep 7th 2020 at 4:08:28 PM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#326481: Sep 7th 2020 at 1:34:50 PM

Honestly, I wouldn't blame donors if they did, given what a disaster Trump is for the regular Republican image.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#326482: Sep 7th 2020 at 1:43:24 PM

Why not blame them? Downticket Republicans may not be as obvious as Trump, but they are just every bit as vile and evil as he is.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#326483: Sep 7th 2020 at 2:18:59 PM

Sure, but they would likely be more palatable to donors precisely because they are not as obvious.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#326484: Sep 7th 2020 at 4:17:16 PM

A lost opportunity for Biden is blue baseball caps that say, MAKE AMERICA SMART AGAIN or MAKE AMERICA COVID-FREE AGAIN.

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#326485: Sep 7th 2020 at 4:25:53 PM

[up] Okay that's what I'm talking about. Trump is a bad president but Biden shouldn't be campaigning on this idea that he can magically fix everything or make COVID go away. If there were a way this could easily end, I think we'd have seen some evidence of it by now.

Goals for a first term need to be relatively small and realistic.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#326486: Sep 7th 2020 at 4:36:43 PM

I think the vaccine created by actual scientists and distributed by it will happen fairly soon. Its only Trump made it so much worse than it had to be. He's also attempted to weaponize it against his enemies.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Sep 7th 2020 at 4:37:14 AM

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ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#326487: Sep 7th 2020 at 5:28:02 PM

[up] Effective vaccines can't be made this quickly. Expect it to not work well at all or have a multitude of problems due to rushing it out.

Edited by ScubaWolf on Sep 7th 2020 at 8:28:26 AM

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#326488: Sep 7th 2020 at 5:50:29 PM

In fairness, numerous vaccines are already in stage 3 trials.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#326489: Sep 7th 2020 at 5:52:35 PM

Yes, Oxford lucked out that its common cold vaccine works against Covid-19. It's a miracle and one we should be grateful for.

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#326490: Sep 7th 2020 at 5:54:57 PM

I don’t think the Oxford one was for the Common Cold, it was for another strain of COVID and they modified it when things blew up, thus why it got into testing so early.

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#326491: Sep 7th 2020 at 6:00:43 PM

I think they were designing a MERS vaccine, specifically?

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#326492: Sep 7th 2020 at 6:02:15 PM

How many trial stages are there? We have some in stage 3, but stage 3 out of what?

PointMaid Since: Jun, 2014
#326493: Sep 7th 2020 at 6:03:30 PM

Stage 3 is the last stage of testing before a drug or vaccine can be released to the public. smile

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#326494: Sep 7th 2020 at 6:03:31 PM

Three. Stage Three is the large-scale "is this safe for humans" thing.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#326495: Sep 7th 2020 at 6:06:12 PM

Yes, it's getting weird how some people think that it will be years before a viable vaccine is ready.

No, we're well past that.

Covid-19 isn't a mysterious space disease. It's just a very virulent version of a pre-existing one.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#326496: Sep 7th 2020 at 6:10:54 PM

Thank you. I figured stage 3 was tail-end since being in stage 3 was clearly a big deal. Didn't realize it was final stage.

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#326497: Sep 7th 2020 at 6:11:23 PM

I think it's mostly rampant pessimism that makes it hard to believe a vaccine for COVID will be a thing in the near future. Personally, I'm expecting a vaccine to cost exorbitant amounts of money, here in the US. After all, that's how most medicine is, here.

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#326498: Sep 7th 2020 at 6:17:11 PM

The real challenge will be distribution. Even if it's affordable, it'll be tough to get it to everyone in an orderly fashion.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#326499: Sep 7th 2020 at 6:21:17 PM

I fully expect Trump to try to implement a non-simultaneous release because, well, I think of him as cartoonishly evil now.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#326500: Sep 7th 2020 at 6:21:46 PM

And certain high priority sectors will get the vaccine before the general population, other factors aside.

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