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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Some relieving news (I hope it stays this way).
Republican obstruction might do some good. Grand Bargain is increasingly unlikely according to McConnel.
It's not terrorism you ninnies.
It's extortion. Or blackmail-though, "Blackmail" Is Such an Ugly Word.
edited 14th Oct '12 7:58:55 PM by TheyCallMeTomu
Why not? Everything else is terrorism.
I do agree that sort of thing should be considered voter intimidation. I know that if a company made the same threats about Romney getting in, there'd be a lot of squawking from the right.
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"I prefer 'extortion'. The 'X' makes it sound cool."
edited 14th Oct '12 8:08:14 PM by TrashJack
"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's DictionaryY'all are being silly. These people are saying "if Obama is reelected, our businesses will be harmed" and they are emphasizing the fact that if their businesses are harmed, everyone involved will be harmed, not just the fat cat owners. They aren't "threatening" anyone.
They obviously have an incentive to play up the harm their employees will suffer and downplay the harm they will suffer, because the public has this mentality of "serves the rich *****s right" towards anything that harms the wealthy.
edited 14th Oct '12 8:49:23 PM by EdwardsGrizzly
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No kidding. there's been experiments that prove richer people are (surprise surprise) greedier, less likely to return extra change, ruder in general, ect.
I mean, Steve jobs used to take up handicap spots AT HIS OWN BUILDING. wtf man. wtf.
Look at it this way. They lay off workers WHILE THEY keep high salaries that allow them to afford jets. that's screwed up.
I'm not saying they should't get the jets if they earn the money, but they should be putting their workers first.
edited 14th Oct '12 8:51:48 PM by Joesolo
I'm baaaaaaackTo determine whether this is voter intimidation, you need to look at motive.
Scenario 1: The guys in charge of the company were thinking, "We don't want Obama to get reelected, so we'll tell our employees that we'll fire a bunch of them if he gets a second term. That'll scare folks out of voting for him."
Status: Illegal
Scenario 2: They were thinking, "Obama getting reelected could hurt our profits and force us to fire a lot of people. We should probably give our employees a heads up about that."
Status: Legal
Part of the typical definition of terrorism is the use of violence or threat of violence (in pursuit of a political end goal). This involves neither, though I do think it's ethics are questionable.
edited 14th Oct '12 8:56:20 PM by darksidevoid
GM: AGOG S4 & F/WC RP; Co-GM: TABA, SOTR, UUA RP; Sub-GM: TTS RP. I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new Empire.They're crying that their businesses will be harmed with no evidence at all.
The first guy who warned of layoffs admitted that business was good under Obama. “the economy doesn’t currently pose a threat to your job. What does threaten your job however, is another 4 years of the same Presidential administration.”
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Yeah, that's not leaving a whole lot of doubt in regards to motive.
Again, it's only illegal if telling people who to vote for was their intent. If they came to the decision that "Obama reelection = layoffs" without thinking about how such a decision would affect their employees' voting behavior, then it wouldn't count as voter intimidation (though, as I mention above, that scenario seems quite unlikely).
edited 14th Oct '12 9:00:37 PM by RavenWilder
Exactly what part of president Obama's first term has harmed corporate profits so badly to justify a forecast of laying off bundles of employees as not just possible, but a certainty should he get a second term? Where's the cause and effect to show that this isn't just empty bluster, like the earlier link about the wannabe Versailles palace asshole who said he'd 'have' to fire a bunch of employees if he had ANY new taxes, period?
Because I don't see it. It looks like the economic equivalent of the 'thousand years of darkness' commercial to me.
And for that matter, where is the proof that the alternative, Mitt Romney's eternally vague 'cut taxes on the wealthy now, we'll figure out the rest of it later' plan, would be BETTER for businesses?
Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.

Well who knows,maybe the populace will finally with the Dems making no decisions,finally hold the GOP accountable.
edited 14th Oct '12 7:13:26 PM by terlwyth