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PointMaid Since: Jun, 2014
#325476: Aug 30th 2020 at 12:12:52 PM

I'm from MA, too. No idea what Baker is doing with the National Guard. There is literally an article on Boston.com/BostonGlobe.com right now with the title, 'Gov. Baker activates National Guard, doesn't give a reason'. :

"A statement released by Baker’s Executive Office of Public Safety and Security said National Guard personnel would only be deployed if their presence was requested by municipal leaders. The office noted the role the National Guard has played in helping the state respond to the COVID-19 pandemic and cope with weather-related incidents like blizzards and tornadoes.

Baker’s office didn’t immediately respond Saturday to a request for comment."

Edited by PointMaid on Aug 30th 2020 at 3:15:19 PM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#325477: Aug 30th 2020 at 12:12:52 PM

Because they're sociopaths.

If only, sociopaths aren't a large enough portion of the population to be a political threat. No, they're just infested with toxic social views.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 30th 2020 at 12:13:21 PM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#325478: Aug 30th 2020 at 12:14:24 PM

Also, maybe we shouldn't be throwing terms like that around willy nilly. Especially since it's not like "sociopaths" are inherently/irreversibly evil in the first place.

Edited by LSBK on Aug 30th 2020 at 2:38:21 PM

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#325479: Aug 30th 2020 at 12:36:30 PM

Plus my understanding is that most of sociopaths are actually pleasant people since due to lack of empathy they had to manually learn how to please other people and how to avoid angering them tongue Unlike people you are complaining about

Edited by SpookyMask on Aug 30th 2020 at 10:38:28 PM

PointMaid Since: Jun, 2014
#325480: Aug 30th 2020 at 1:00:51 PM

To follow up about the MA question, I don't know whether it has any bearing on why the National Guard was activated (probably not?), but I found there was an anti-vaxx protest at the State House to protest the fact that school kids will be required to get flu shots this year. pictures here So many without masks, one caption shows two people hugging 'at the urging of a speaker', and so much right-wing nonsense.

Ugh.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#325481: Aug 30th 2020 at 1:04:41 PM

Someone better vaccinate those kids.

Saving lives & pissing off morons. Kill 2 birds with one stone.

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#325482: Aug 30th 2020 at 1:07:22 PM

@Spooky Mask You're probably thinking more like autism. Though this depends on how 'empathy' is defined. In the case of sociopathy, they lack empathy in the sense that they wouldn't necessarily cringe at the sight of a male accidentally injuring their balls. They also tend to have poor impulse control and are easily bored.

To my understanding (and I could be 100% wrong about this), Haruhi Suzamiya is akin to how sociopaths tend to act. They can be very good at manipulating others (and it's not too uncommon for them to be abusive). Having said that, contrary to popular portrayals, sociopaths tend to have slightly-lower-than-average I Qs and are self-destructively impulsive rather than chessmasters.

Having said that, extreme evil and sociopathy have much less overlap than one might expect. For example, among Hitler's inner circle, only one guy was a diagnosed sociopath, IIRC that guy admitted he never really cared at all about Nazi ideology, he was just in it for himself.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#325483: Aug 30th 2020 at 1:09:05 PM

A funny study by a doctor discovered a much larger portion of the population are PSYCHO-paths (versus sociopaths) than anyone ever imagined. The doctor also found out that it included him. Most of them aren't murderers or evil, just incredibly rude people.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-neuroscientist-who-discovered-he-was-a-psychopath-180947814/

I know a couple in RL. Both of them are very interesting conversationalists but decent blokes.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 30th 2020 at 1:10:15 AM

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#325484: Aug 30th 2020 at 1:15:08 PM

I think the real problem is how society rewards the negative traits of pscyho- and sociopathy.

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#325485: Aug 30th 2020 at 1:44:56 PM

I never was able to figure out what the difference was between a psychopath and a sociopath.

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#325486: Aug 30th 2020 at 1:51:30 PM

Psychopathy is a physical inability to feel empathy. Sociopathy isn't.

I think that's it.

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#325487: Aug 30th 2020 at 1:57:32 PM

Not sure of it's clinically correct but I still like this definition I read a long time ago:

Psychopaths are incapable of distinguishing reality from fantasy. Sociopaths can, they just don't care. So The Joker would be a psychopath while Lex Luthor would be a sociopath.

Edited by tricksterson on Aug 30th 2020 at 4:58:08 AM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#325488: Aug 30th 2020 at 1:59:27 PM

I think neither term is used in the mental health field anymore.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#325489: Aug 30th 2020 at 2:19:01 PM

No, just Antisocial Personality Disorder.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#325490: Aug 30th 2020 at 2:24:45 PM

[up][up][up] According to people in the Linkara thread, Joker is apparently not actually insane. Or not any more, anyway.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#325491: Aug 30th 2020 at 3:17:13 PM

For those of you who missed it, here's the beautiful roll call of states and territories from the DNC.

It's in alphabetical order so you can find your state easily enough. Anyone have anything to say about how their state was represented?

Xorn15 Nurse Mordred Attending from R&D Platform, Seychelles Waters Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Nurse Mordred Attending
#325492: Aug 30th 2020 at 4:07:47 PM

Apparently, Bill Maher is feeling as nervous as he felt in 2016 after the RNC.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/514250-bill-maher-to-joy-reid-very-nervous-about-bidens-chances-after-gop-convention

I don't really know much about him, so I want to hear your thoughts on this.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#325493: Aug 30th 2020 at 4:19:36 PM

I mostly know him as a super left-yet-anti-Muslim pundit who used to host Politically Incorrect.

Beyond that, I don't think he's wellr egarded or taken very seriously in these parts.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#325494: Aug 30th 2020 at 4:22:16 PM

He's a liberal (his words) talking head, but critical of "political correctness" also afair an anti-vaxxer. Basically if there was a Liberal Fox News, he'd be on their posters.

My guess is that this is less hard political analysis and more controversy mongering to raise profile.

Edited by 3of4 on Aug 30th 2020 at 1:26:03 PM

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AngrokVa indighost from america, unfortunately Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Saddled with unnecessary feelings
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#325495: Aug 30th 2020 at 4:26:59 PM

Cross-posting from the Civl Unrest thread, today Biden put out a statement in response to the violence in Portland.

The deadly violence we saw overnight in Portland is unacceptable. Shooting in the streets of a great American city is unacceptable. I condemn this violence unequivocally. I condemn violence of every kind by any one, whether on the left or the right. And I challenge Donald Trump to do the same. It does not matter if you find the political views of your opponents abhorrent, any loss of life is a tragedy. Today there is another family grieving in America, and Jill and I offer our deepest condolences.

We must not become a country at war with ourselves. A country that accepts the killing of fellow Americans who do not agree with you. A country that vows vengeance toward one another. But that is the America that President Trump wants us to be, the America he believes we are.

As a country, we must condemn the incitement of hate and resentment that led to this deadly clash. It is not a peaceful protest when you go out spoiling for a fight. What does President Trump think will happen when he continues to insist on fanning the flames of hate and division in our society and using the politics of fear to whip up his supporters? He is recklessly encouraging violence. He may believe tweeting about law and order makes him strong – but his failure to call on his supporters to stop seeking conflict shows just how weak he is. He may think that war in our streets is good for his reelection chances, but that is not presidential leadership–or even basic human compassion.

The job of a President is to lower the temperature. To bring people who disagree with one another together. To make life better for all Americans, not just those who agree with us, support us, or vote for us.

Donald Trump has been president for almost four years. The temperature in the country is higher, tensions run stronger, divisions run deeper. And all of us are less safe because Donald Trump can’t do the job of the American president.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#325496: Aug 30th 2020 at 4:30:36 PM

Bill maher is a liberal who often atack conservative was know for is sharp toung and williness to be quite a dick about.

he suffer a case of values dissonance since now that behavior is more asociate with the right in general.

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AngrokVa indighost from america, unfortunately Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Saddled with unnecessary feelings
indighost
#325497: Aug 30th 2020 at 4:31:01 PM

And sort-of double-posting, but anyone ever heard of the People's Party? Well it's a movement for such a party. They want to be a third party made up of those who are a bit farther left-wing than even I am, those who are fed up with Democrats being so indecisive about the issues we have in this country. Anyway, they're doing a "People's Convention" on YouTube right now. I'm not watching, but if anyone wants to check it out, please relay what you see and hear. Thanks.

Edited by AngrokVa on Aug 30th 2020 at 7:33:08 AM

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#325498: Aug 30th 2020 at 4:32:53 PM

Third Party on the US System is just a polite word for "irrelevant."

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#325499: Aug 30th 2020 at 4:33:35 PM

"If you don't focus on local races, you're idiots who won't get anywhere or achieve anything." Some advice for them.

AngrokVa indighost from america, unfortunately Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Saddled with unnecessary feelings
indighost
#325500: Aug 30th 2020 at 4:33:47 PM

[up][up] I'm not too sure if you can call hovering around tenth on Twitter trending irrelevant. I hear they're tackling a lot of issues better than the Democrats are right now.

Edited by AngrokVa on Aug 30th 2020 at 7:34:52 AM


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