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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#32476: Oct 14th 2012 at 6:08:29 AM

Honestly, this comes from a very simple fact: The Founders didn't plan for political parties forming since they thought they'd be able to stop them.

Honestly, that's where the majority of the problems in our political system come from.

edited 14th Oct '12 6:09:38 AM by deathpigeon

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#32477: Oct 14th 2012 at 6:58:13 AM

[up][up][up][up] crazy aint it?

I'm baaaaaaack
storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#32478: Oct 14th 2012 at 7:06:23 AM

What news in Libya? Did something new come up?

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32479: Oct 14th 2012 at 7:20:32 AM

[up][up][up]That just made me realize something hilarious.

Republicans: "Obey the constitution and the framer's wishes! They are law!"

Framer's ghosts: "Uh...guys, we kind of wanted you to avoid forming political parties."

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#32480: Oct 14th 2012 at 7:25:42 AM

Which was rather naive of them. Humans are pack anumals. We form groups and factions as easily and naturally as we digest food.

Trump delenda est
Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#32481: Oct 14th 2012 at 7:32:01 AM

Are the republicans desperate or something?

On CBS they're about to complain about how the Obama Administration failed to label the Libyan embassy attack a terrorist attack immediately.

Who gives a shit?

I mean, what difference does it make? Its not like they had all the fucking answers immediately.

And I doubt a Romney administration wouldn't have done anything different.

Unless jumping the gun and screaming "TERRORIST" at every opportunity is good intelligence gathering.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32482: Oct 14th 2012 at 7:34:23 AM

Well what else would it have been? I can see waiting for information to come in but not calling it a terrorist attack seems silly. Still not something you'd attack him over though.

edited 14th Oct '12 7:34:38 AM by Kostya

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#32483: Oct 14th 2012 at 7:37:47 AM

"Assault" "Riot"? The label "Terrorist" gets thrown around far too easy anyway.

To clarify: I meant that labelling something as "terrorist" without knowing if it has a terrorist goal or is perpetrated by known terrorists is just fearmongering.

edited 14th Oct '12 7:41:50 AM by 3of4

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#32484: Oct 14th 2012 at 7:39:34 AM

[up][up]

But it makes absolutely zero difference

It feels like desperate clinging.

Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
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#32485: Oct 14th 2012 at 8:21:05 AM

Uh, not exactly...

It was originally reported that there was a protest going on, but it turns out that in Libya there was no such thing at the Benghazian embassy. The embassy in Benghazi was just straight out attacked immediately with no protest to cover themselves. There are claims that the state department was trying to cover its ass.

edited 14th Oct '12 8:22:03 AM by Completion

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#32486: Oct 14th 2012 at 8:26:40 AM

Oh it could just be the fact that it's hard to get accurate information about crimes that happen halfway across the city let alone halfway across the world and they just didn't want to say anything inciting until they knew for certain.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#32487: Oct 14th 2012 at 8:54:02 AM

Question: With Obama supposedly leading in the early voting polls, does Romney's bump even mean anything significant? By which I mean, are there enough people voting early to counter act whatever rise in popularity Romney has?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32488: Oct 14th 2012 at 10:02:53 AM

[up]Well the polls for who people prefer probably take into account early voters too so I don't think it will tip things that much. However it will hopefully make it really fucking clear why early voting rights are being restricted.

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#32489: Oct 14th 2012 at 10:10:23 AM

Early voting? Interesting concept.

What people (and don't just say 'Democrats' or 'Republican', because that means jack) perform early voting?

edited 14th Oct '12 10:10:32 AM by Inhopelessguy

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#32490: Oct 14th 2012 at 10:16:07 AM

Arlen Specter just died.

Anyone here from Pennsylvania?

edited 14th Oct '12 10:18:22 AM by DeviantBraeburn

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#32491: Oct 14th 2012 at 10:17:41 AM

It's mostly Democrats, actually, which for more specific definitions includes the working poor who are less likely to be able to get that specific day off of work, and also blacks and Latinos. I mean, I know you don't want me to say Democrats, but it's people who are more likely to vote that way, which is why the Republicans specifically this time around are trying to restrict it.

Also poll workers, because they know they're going to be working that day to help other people vote.

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#32492: Oct 14th 2012 at 10:22:34 AM

Yes, you've just given me a whole two paragraphs. That's my US Govt & Politics homework done, thanks Ace. tongue

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32493: Oct 14th 2012 at 10:24:33 AM

Deviant: Oh boy...

Yeah, I'm from PA.

RIP Senator Specter.

Inhopelessguy: Generally people that are either elderly or lower income. It's primarily anyone who doesn't have good transportation and can't get to the polls reliably.

edit: I think people in the military do that too since they're overseas.

edited 14th Oct '12 10:28:59 AM by Kostya

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#32494: Oct 14th 2012 at 10:25:38 AM

Well, it's not like other posters haven't linked to various articles about the topic already, or that you can't google for articles about voter restriction and ID laws which point these things out.

#32495: Oct 14th 2012 at 11:13:28 AM

Oh it could just be the fact that it's hard to get accurate information about crimes that happen halfway across the city let alone halfway across the world and they just didn't want to say anything inciting until they knew for certain.

Which would make sense if the claim that the ordinary people of Libya freaked out and started murdering people over a youtube video were actually less inciting than the claim that calculating terrorists infiltrated the country and organized a direct attack.

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#32496: Oct 14th 2012 at 11:56:36 AM

All the details weren't there at the time.

How are they supposed to know exactly what is going on instantly?

And its not false that people WERE going out and flipping out over a youtube video.

edited 14th Oct '12 11:57:00 AM by Thorn14

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#32497: Oct 14th 2012 at 12:04:49 PM

Eh, I think that it's indicative of a culture that blames Islam for a lot of shit, and reflects poorly on the administration, but that a republican administration would have done the same thing^10

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#32498: Oct 14th 2012 at 12:22:51 PM

And is it really that important? I mean...what difference does it make?

HilarityEnsues Since: Sep, 2009
#32499: Oct 14th 2012 at 12:39:10 PM

If Obama manages to lose the foreign policy debate, I'm going to be absolutely amazed. All of the controversial actions he's undertaken in this area aren't mainstream issues so they aren't going to be mentioned, and Romney himself is so incompetent in this area that it's kind of awe-inspiring.

edited 14th Oct '12 12:39:44 PM by HilarityEnsues

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#32500: Oct 14th 2012 at 12:42:13 PM

All Obama should have to do is hold up a picture of Osama Bin Laden with the word "Dead" under it.

Of course, conservatives love hawkish cowboy shit so Romney may win by constantly saying we aren't doing enough to Iran.


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