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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#324876: Aug 24th 2020 at 1:31:44 PM

Man our cops are some dumb motherfuckers.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#324877: Aug 24th 2020 at 1:33:01 PM

"The Wisconsin Department of Justice's Division of Criminal Investigation said early Monday that the involved officers have been placed on administrative leave."

In better news, Blake is out of surgery.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#324878: Aug 24th 2020 at 1:45:12 PM

Oh, they're not dumb. They know exactly what they are doing. They are just racist and very dangerous.

You know how they say to not mistake stupidity for malice? Well, it can go the other way too.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#324879: Aug 24th 2020 at 2:00:24 PM

So in a weird twist, Jerry Falwell Jr. and his wife were allegedly in a "hotwife" (read: man watching as his wife has sex with someone else) situation with their pool boy for the past 9 years or so. Jerry alleges that his wife was having an affair, omitting any involvement on his part, and claiming the guy is trying to extort them over it.

[down]

As I mentioned, the pool boy alleges that it was a "hotwife" situation - as in Jerry Fawell Jr. was in the room watching as they had sex.

And personally, I really don't care - you do you, as long as everyone involved is a consenting adult. But Falwell's Liberty University (or rather, Sr's) forbids so much as non-chaperoned dating for attendees.

Edited by ironballs16 on Aug 24th 2020 at 11:14:19 AM

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#324880: Aug 24th 2020 at 2:09:31 PM

Who's Jerry Falwell?

And yeah, I'm guessing he didn't find it so hot any more once the wife and pool boy started getting too close.

Edited by Redmess on Aug 24th 2020 at 11:11:11 AM

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Bur from Flyover Country (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#324881: Aug 24th 2020 at 2:11:53 PM

I thought it was one of those open secret kind of things that he, his wife, and the pool boy have been in a threesome for a dog’s age.

Edited by Bur on Aug 24th 2020 at 4:12:03 AM

AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#324882: Aug 24th 2020 at 2:13:37 PM

Okay, for those of you who like sweet details on policy, the Democratic Party Platform is out. I'll personally be reading it later today, but it might be of interest to you all as well.

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#324883: Aug 24th 2020 at 2:14:14 PM

[up]x3 The Trumpeteer 'Lawyer' (I thought he was a 'preacher' too, but I'm not seeing anything about him being a 'priest'; just his deceased father being the 'priest') who ran Liberty 'University' who was kicked out recently over posting pictures of him fondling a women who wasn't his wife.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Aug 24th 2020 at 5:16:03 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#324884: Aug 24th 2020 at 2:15:47 PM

Falwell is one of those old-school televangelist mega-preacher types who's in big with all the fraud that goes along with the job.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#324885: Aug 24th 2020 at 2:25:13 PM

Oh, I see, one of those megachurch types.

I thought someone posted the RNC platform already? It was mostly Trumpist wish fulfilment, campaign slogans masquerading as policy, and rather confused Dem talking points for good measure.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#324886: Aug 24th 2020 at 2:27:27 PM

Azure is saying that the full Democrat platform is out.

I’m seeing claims that it no longe includes a commitment to a one-China policy, thus opening up the possibility of recognition for Taiwan.

Also I think there is no official Republican platform this year, they copied the 2016 one then just went with “our platform is Trump, no details”.

[down] Some times my spellchecker has a ‘moment’, yeah you got what I was talking about.

Edited by Silasw on Aug 24th 2020 at 9:36:35 AM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#324887: Aug 24th 2020 at 2:29:50 PM

[up] Precisely.

And checking the 'Asia-Pacific' section, there is mention of backing Taiwan as per the Taiwan Relations Act, but I see no mention of a One-China policy.

I presume that's what you're asking, because I don't know what

no longe rain luxe’s a commitment

means.

Edited by AzurePaladin on Aug 24th 2020 at 5:30:44 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#324888: Aug 24th 2020 at 2:32:01 PM

Oops, my bad, sorry.

They probably feel it is now or never for supporting Taiwan. Politically holding off on full blown support does not seem to be an option any more for Democrats.

Edited by Redmess on Aug 24th 2020 at 11:33:40 AM

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#324889: Aug 24th 2020 at 3:07:04 PM

Also worth noting that Falwell went all in for Trump in 2016 after Trump's fixer Michael Cohen made those pool boy pictures disappear.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#324890: Aug 24th 2020 at 3:14:11 PM

Well, that's not encouraging. The One China Policy was (and is) a rational response to a delicate solution. It avoided pointlessly damaging our relations with China while leaving room to defend Taiwan in the case of aggression.

Ditching it would be irresponsible at the best of times, but it's even worse considering that we have the onrushing ecological disaster of Climate Change to deal with. Humanity as a whole will be worse off if we put petty geopolitical rivalry ahead of dealing with it.

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#324891: Aug 24th 2020 at 3:17:12 PM

Fairly pessimistic to give up on saying anything to China for the sake of climate change. Rolling over and abandoning every ally and commitment is not going to help with fostering any sense of co-operation or persuading China to stop building things it has no use for because it can.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#324892: Aug 24th 2020 at 3:19:38 PM

Ditching it would be irresponsible at the best of times, but it's even worse considering that we have the onrushing ecological disaster of Climate Change to deal with. Humanity as a whole will be worse off if we put petty geopolitical rivalry ahead of dealing with it.

Couple of points:

1. If they're willing to risk the world over Taiwan, they should be called out on it.

2. If we're willing to turn our back to invasion and genocide over climate change then fuck climate change.

3. They're not intending to do anything about it.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 24th 2020 at 3:19:59 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#324893: Aug 24th 2020 at 3:22:48 PM

It's not exactly an easy or pleasant choice, no.

No one wants to make that decision, weighing the future of the world against one island.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#324894: Aug 24th 2020 at 3:28:12 PM

China exists in the world, I’m still unconvinced by the idea that China will take less action on climate change to spite the West. China is as impacted by climate change as the US is, if not more so.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#324895: Aug 24th 2020 at 3:28:24 PM

Again, I think it's a false choice.

Either China isn't negotiating in good faith and will work to against climate change themselves or they really do plan to destroy the world (where they live) in which case it's pointless anyway.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 24th 2020 at 3:28:50 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#324896: Aug 24th 2020 at 3:39:36 PM

What do you mean by fuck climate change? That effects the entire world, if the climate goes to shit we're all fucked. Might be a bit of a slow burn thing (could take a couple of decades), but there's no way disregarding ends well. Do you mean China doesn't care?

Edited by jjjj2 on Aug 24th 2020 at 6:39:50 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#324897: Aug 24th 2020 at 3:47:51 PM

I find it hard to believe that China would be willing to destroy the world, or themselves. They are not monsters. They like living just as much as you and me do.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#324898: Aug 24th 2020 at 3:56:53 PM

Fairly pessimistic to give up on saying anything to China for the sake of climate change. Rolling over and abandoning every ally and commitment is not going to help with fostering any sense of co-operation or persuading China to stop building things it has no use for because it can.

Considering that I literally mentioned that the One China Policy leaves us room to defend Taiwan it is shockingly disengenous to make this argument.

Couple of points:

1. If they're willing to risk the world over Taiwan, they should be called out on it.

2. If we're willing to turn our back to invasion and genocide over climate change then fuck climate change.

3. They're not intending to do anything about it.

1. True but irrelevant to my point, the One China Policy is not about avoiding criticizing China. It's meant to avoid pointlessly antagonizing them.

2. Read my post again.

3. Then there's no reason to change anything.

China exists in the world, I’m still unconvinced by the idea that China will take less action on climate change to spite the West. China is as impacted by climate change as the US is, if not more so.

China doesn't need to consciously decide to screw the world over, anything that obstructs cooperation hinders efforts to fight Climate Change. Officially recognizing Taiwan obstructs cooperation for no gain.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 24th 2020 at 3:58:17 AM

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#324899: Aug 24th 2020 at 4:09:55 PM

Officially recognizing Taiwan obstructs cooperation for no gain.

I’m gonna dispute the “no gain” there. You may judge the gain from Taiwan getting a place in the world to be minimal, but it’s still something, if nothing else it’s something pretty significant for the people of Taiwan.

I do get your concerns, it’s not unrealistic that the US recognises Taiwan, the PRC throws a shit fit and bans Chinese companies cooperating with the US, the US retaliates by banning US companies cooperating with China, everyone gets so caught up in the moment that they don’t bother putting in an exception for sharing renewables technology.

But that’s a bridge I’m okay crossing when we come to it. We can take up that fight when/if the US government start limiting cooperation with Chinese companies, at that point I’ll be totally with you on demanding an exception allowing technology sharing for technologies that combat climate change.

Edited by Silasw on Aug 24th 2020 at 11:10:20 AM

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megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#324900: Aug 24th 2020 at 4:26:07 PM

China would close its embassy if the US recognized Taiwan independence, if not prep for war, because US words would have no meaning unless the 7th was in the Strait.

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