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#324851: Aug 24th 2020 at 9:15:55 AM

I wonder if the Republicans will ever have a realization about how childish they are, or if they're happy to make politics like that forever.

I'm also extremely depressed at the thought that acting childish will become seen as a position of strength by Republican voters and that politics are forever tainted.

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#324852: Aug 24th 2020 at 9:24:23 AM

If they were capable of that level of self-awareness they probably wouldn't be sinking to that level in the first place.

Most people outgrow that kind of behavior before they get out of their teens.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#324853: Aug 24th 2020 at 9:39:39 AM

Drop boxes are also bad because the Republican poll-watchers can't scrutinise everyone. And something about them not being sanitised which Trump suddenly cares about now.
While probably not relevant to why he's doing this particular thing, doesn't Trump have a legit reputation as a germophobe?

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 24th 2020 at 9:39:46 AM

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#324854: Aug 24th 2020 at 9:42:19 AM

[up]Oh man, this must involve heavy doublethink relating to COVID-19...

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#324855: Aug 24th 2020 at 10:02:08 AM

The GOP putting their entire platform plan on Trump could be a way to distance themselves from him should he lose. In that case they can say "see, his platform lost us the election, now here's ours..."

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#324856: Aug 24th 2020 at 10:07:01 AM

In other news:

Secret Service buys location data that would otherwise need a warrant: Agencies' ability to purchase any data on the open market is a big loophole.

Well, that's certainly a sneaky way to spy on your citizens. Can't get a warrant? No problem, just buy the information from third parties. Don't ask where that info came from, either.

Speaking of spying:

Coronavirus researchers must examine Trump-backed conspiracy—or lose funding: Trump admin. pulled funding before, now wants information on Wuhan lab.

Basically, Trump is demanding that coronavirus researches spy on Wuhan labs in exchange for funding, all in pursuit of blaming China for the virus of course.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#324857: Aug 24th 2020 at 10:07:17 AM

[up][up]"It's just a tear stained piece of paper with the words "How" and "Why" written on it over and over."

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 24th 2020 at 10:07:28 AM

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#324858: Aug 24th 2020 at 11:27:11 AM

New York Attorney General has been investigating Trump Organization for possible tax fraud though inflated assets.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#324859: Aug 24th 2020 at 11:29:14 AM

I thought they had been doing that for years now? At least, I remember reading plenty about such tax fraud.

Or is this just the official case being brought?

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#324860: Aug 24th 2020 at 11:32:37 AM

[up][up][up]"With three to five exclamation points after each word."

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#324861: Aug 24th 2020 at 12:07:52 PM

So a few things.

1) Apparently (according to Claudia Conway), she found out about her mother's resignation through a tweet - "They didn’t even talk about it with any of us …just tweeted about it as if this is going to change anything and make me not emancipate myself." She's also none-too-thrilled with her father, as the only thing they agree on is how awful Trump is - beyond that, no commonalities to be had politically.

2) The RNC platform being just "Trump" - yes, that's actually the case, though the rationale offered up is hilariously contradictory. Though something to note is that they're adopting the 2016 platform again instead of writing a new one.

The statement read: “The RNC has unanimously voted to forego the Convention Committee on Platform, in appreciation of the fact that it did not want a small contingent of delegates formulating a new platform without the breadth of perspectives within the ever-growing Republican movement.”

The announcement followed a vote in June, where the executive committee decided to adopt the 2016 platform for November’s presidential election.

They voted to repeat the platform, because the coronavirus pandemic made it impossible for the thousands of national delegates to meet up and vote on changes, according to LGBTQ Nation.

In the statement on Sunday, the RNC claimed that if the committee had being able to meet, that it “would have undoubtedly unanimously agreed to reassert the party’s strong support for president Donald Trump and his administration.”

The statement added: “The Republican Party has and will continue to enthusiastically support the president’s America-first agenda.”

3) And unrelated to what's been discussed, but a Konesha, Wisconsin police officer shot a black man 7 times in the back while responding to a domestic disturbance call. While the black man, Jacob Blake, was getting into his car... while the officer was holding onto the guy's shirt, so he was literally in arm's reach when he opened fire. And according to the family's attorney, Blake's kids were in the car when their father was shot. It's like a horrifying version of an Escalating Punchline.

Edited by ironballs16 on Aug 24th 2020 at 3:10:10 PM

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#324862: Aug 24th 2020 at 12:10:10 PM

The man, Jacob Blake? Thankfully, he survived.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#324863: Aug 24th 2020 at 12:12:06 PM

[up]

So far, anyway. He's apparently in stable condition after surgery. And according to that article...

The man, who lives across the street from Blake on the 2800 block of 40th St., said when he went to the store about 15 minutes before the shooting, Blake was barbecuing with his kids. When the neighbor returned shortly after 5 p.m., Blake was trying to break up a fight. Seven or eight police officers arrived. They wanted to talk with Blake, but he wasn't interested and started putting his kids in the car to leave, the neighbor said.

The video shows Blake walking toward his vehicle as two officers follow him with their guns drawn. They did not appear to use any other force on Blake before one of them shot him and he slumped onto the steering wheel.

So he did literally nothing to warrant that level of response, even if they were suspicious - nowhere in the US, so far as I'm aware, is a person compelled to give a witness statement to the police if they don't want to.

Edited by ironballs16 on Aug 24th 2020 at 3:15:36 PM

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#324864: Aug 24th 2020 at 12:21:19 PM

He survived getting shot seven times at point blank range? That's kind of amazing.

[up] Of course it is unwarranted, it just goes to show just how far out of line the US police is these days. This is what you get when you give civilian police military training.

Edited by Redmess on Aug 24th 2020 at 9:22:53 PM

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#324865: Aug 24th 2020 at 12:22:30 PM

And yet some people will still say "Well he should have just obeyed the cops, he knows they're on edge these days".

Of course these will be the same people who claim that masks are against their rights, so the hypocrisy is pretty obvious.

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#324866: Aug 24th 2020 at 12:25:16 PM

They were responding to a domestic disturbance and he was trying to break up the fight.

Of course they shot him. He's a black man. They automatically assumed that the disturbance in question was him assaulting these two women.

They weren't following him to compel witness testimony. They wanted to plant drugs on him and send him to prison for forty years. As is always the case in these situations, the police decided they were going to destroy his life and there is literally nothing he could have done to prevent something terrible from happening to him.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 24th 2020 at 12:26:07 PM

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#324867: Aug 24th 2020 at 12:45:40 PM

[up]

Please turn down the hyperbole a tad.

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#324868: Aug 24th 2020 at 12:48:54 PM

[up]Absolutely nothing in their post was hyperbole. The police once again tried to murder an innocent man because of his race, it serves no one to downplay things.

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#324869: Aug 24th 2020 at 12:49:36 PM

It's Not Hyperbole in this case. The cops were operating on a simple program of "if person=black TRUE, then SHOOT". So kindly store the tone policing somewhere cool and dry.

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#324870: Aug 24th 2020 at 12:53:00 PM

Yeah, we've already seen plenty of examples of exactly this sort of behaviour from police in the US to know that this is not hyperbole. The police are just flat out, out of control.

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#324871: Aug 24th 2020 at 12:57:15 PM

The presence of a black person adjacent to a crime, or even a potential crime, turns some cops into psychopathic murderers. This is simple fact.

By the way, if they would have shot a white person under similar circumstances, that doesn't help much. It merely downgrades them from racist psychopaths to just plain psychopaths.

Edited by Fighteer on Aug 24th 2020 at 3:58:20 PM

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#324872: Aug 24th 2020 at 12:59:45 PM

There's also the fact that cops, when called somewhere a crime didn't take place, are shockingly pissy about it and will do their best to find a crime to justify their presence.

If there's a colored person around, expect 'driving while black' to be the charge.

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#324873: Aug 24th 2020 at 1:17:47 PM

Yeah police planting drugs on people is sadly not hyperbole.

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#324874: Aug 24th 2020 at 1:23:40 PM

The presence of a black person adjacent to a crime, or even a potential crime, turns some cops into psychopathic murderers. This is simple fact.

By the way, if they would have shot a white person under similar circumstances, that doesn't help much. It merely downgrades them from racist psychopaths to just plain psychopaths.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#324875: Aug 24th 2020 at 1:29:10 PM

So, have the cops who shot him been charged or fired or anything or is it just something like "on leave with pay" or still on active duty as these things seem to normally play out?


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