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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#324626: Aug 21st 2020 at 7:05:45 AM

Doesn't surprise me, he's occasionally the resident Fox News Liberal.

Edited by AlleyOop on Aug 21st 2020 at 10:05:58 AM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#324627: Aug 21st 2020 at 7:26:52 AM

Besides, the constant yammering about "senile" or "cognitive decline" has lowered the expectations in Biden a lot. I figure that the right wing cranks are realizing that they were peddling a theory that is now untenable.

In struggle to land a blow on Biden, Trump toys with nickname change but eventually sticks with "Sleepy Joe".

Trump is far from the only Republican embracin QAnon.

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#324628: Aug 21st 2020 at 8:37:23 AM

Interestingly, the senile thing has...actually really backfire on Julian Castro. He's all but vanished and had no speaking slots despite being earlier considered a rising young star.

I think Biden took that pretty personally.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#324629: Aug 21st 2020 at 8:51:25 AM

Wait, Castro used that line of attack?

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#324630: Aug 21st 2020 at 8:52:13 AM

I saw some folks at 538 wonder the same thing. But Castro and Biden have spoken since and I haven't heard anything from either camp mention anything about bad blood, so I'm keeping that firmly in the realm of speculation for now.

[up] Second or third debate. It wasn't said directly, but Castro did say Biden was "forgetting" things.

Edited by Parable on Aug 21st 2020 at 8:53:29 AM

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#324631: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:02:16 AM

He said Biden was 'forgetting what he said' two minites ago. It was widely taken to be a knock on Biden's mental state.

Trump admin declares teachers essential workers

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#324632: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:03:17 AM

Does Trump have the authority to do that? I thought that education was a State thing?

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#324634: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:05:55 AM

[up][up][up] Does that mean they get paid more?

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#324635: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:06:07 AM

Seems Rose Mc Gowan (The Me Too! activist) went ballistic last night over the DNC.

Its some pretty nasty stuff. Also makes me lose respect for someone who managed to get the Me Too! ball rolling.

Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Aug 21st 2020 at 12:06:51 PM

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#324636: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:08:27 AM

[up][up]Has the Statue of Liberty started break dancing?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#324637: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:10:38 AM

@Lighty, no. But it is relevant to court challenges, etc.

Former Republican Representative Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania has endorsed Biden in a CNN Op-Ed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/19/opinions/biden-president-endorsement-dent/index.html

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#324638: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:11:58 AM

Rose Mc Gowan has been supporting Trump for a long time.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#324639: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:19:27 AM

"He said Biden was 'forgetting what he said' two minites ago. It was widely taken to be a knock on Biden's mental state."

Castro had the most memorable line, but that debate had a lot of candidates hitting at Biden for some of the Obama Administration's bad policies in response to Biden touting his connection to Obama. It backfired on all of them because the majority of Democrats took those as attacks on Obama himself and got angry. The next debate everyone did a compete 180 and the first chance they got they started gushing over Obama to make up for it.

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#324640: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:21:05 AM

Gowan sounds more like a "both sides" kind of person than like a "MAGA" one, going by their Tweets.

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#324641: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:23:46 AM

Ah, declare teachers essential workers so they can't refuse to work.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#324642: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:23:58 AM

[up][up]At this stage, the former is little better than the latter.

[up]So it also unilaterally revokes their right to strike across America? Yeah, no way this shit goes unchallenged. Especially since said precedent could be applied to any other heavily unionized sector.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Aug 21st 2020 at 1:25:01 PM

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#324643: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:26:40 AM

She's been compared to Susan Sarandon.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#324644: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:31:01 AM

[up] Gonna need some context on that one. I only know Sarandon as an actress in movies I either never saw or don't remember the names of.

Also what did McGown actually say in her DNC-induced rage?

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 21st 2020 at 9:31:33 AM

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#324645: Aug 21st 2020 at 9:50:11 AM

Basically went on a rant about how the Democrats have achieved nothing ever.

Frankly, she should be asking the GOP for cash if she's going to act as their effective surrogate.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#324646: Aug 21st 2020 at 10:15:53 AM

From what I've heard the convention was pretty good, Biden's speech, in particular, seems to have been a success.

Unfortunately not everything has been so good. There was a very disturbing comment from one of Biden's top advisors Ted Kaufman, tellingly Kaufman said that the debt generated by the Trump administration will limit what a Biden presidency can do.

Suffice to say that's absolutely insane. We are facing a pandemic, a historically bad economic situation, an encroaching ecological disaster, and a broken healthcare system. Adopting austerity fixes none of those things and makes everything worse, it is lunacy to possibly consider the debt remotely comparable in importance to those infinitely more pressing issues.

This is particularly bitter for me because despite disliking Biden he had managed to bring me around by adopting much more bold policy then what his rhetoric has previously suggested. It's painful to see the possibility of Biden falling back into old habits and moving away from what made his candidacy something beyond "better than Trump".

We don't need debt hawkery or any other type of austerity fueled depredation, we need vast investment into American society.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#324647: Aug 21st 2020 at 10:17:50 AM

I would think there isn't much to worry about until and unless Biden himself says such a thing. A top advisor is still an advisor, not the decision maker.

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#324648: Aug 21st 2020 at 10:18:02 AM

If Biden starts down the deficit hawk road, we are in deep economic trouble. I hope he doesn't. Obama fell into that trap too.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#324649: Aug 21st 2020 at 10:24:35 AM

I would think there isn't much to worry about until and unless Biden himself says such a thing. A top advisor is still an advisor, not the decision maker.

Respectfully I think this is incorrect, advisors are the people chosen to give input and help craft policy. Their words intrinsically have weight and thus are inherently consequential to one degree or another. It may not be exactly as bad as if Biden himself said it but it's definitely up there.

Furthermore, if we look at Biden's history he has pushed this before and thus it should be taken seriously as a risk.

I desperately hope it won't reflect the characteristics of his administration but now there is a non-zero possibility that it might.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 21st 2020 at 10:25:17 AM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#324650: Aug 21st 2020 at 10:28:07 AM

Fair enough. In hindsight it occurred to me it could also become an issue if said advisor is placed somewhere in Biden's Cabinet that he could follow through on his words.

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 21st 2020 at 10:28:17 AM


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