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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Well, I hope so. He sure seems to be sending up plenty of red flags.
Well, he said he would like a third term, and that the election is rigged if he loses, and that he would love to be president for life, and he admires dictators. He sure seems to like the idea of it.
Edited by Redmess on Aug 18th 2020 at 6:52:54 PM
Hope shines brightest in the darkest timesThe absolute clearest sign that Trump isn't intentionally building a power base is his pandemic response. All he had to do is repeat what Fauci said (see that bit about keeping useful people around) and he would have been fine.
Instead, Trump is so lacking in the basics of forethought that he instead managed to constantly unite people against him and work on killing his own supporters.
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That is a good point.
But I wonder if that has more to do with him just not caring about it. Trump's behaviour differs a lot based on whether something affects him personally. Just look at what he is doing with the post office now.
Edited by Redmess on Aug 18th 2020 at 6:54:34 PM
Hope shines brightest in the darkest timesIn fairness Redmess seems to have moved on once we sorted out the translation issue, it’s other people who aren’t letting it go.
I feel like people are getting hung up on if something meets a certain criteria for being smart or not, that’s such a subjective thing that I’m not sure it’s worth going into. We’d be better off looking at what is within an individual’s power, an awful lot of election tampering is within Trump’s power, though he’s getting pushback on all of it, hopefully democrats have plans for if anything more extreme gets tried.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThe relevance of Trump's intelligence lies in assessing his likely behaviour. If you assume that he's acting more or less on reflex to surround himself with yesmen and lashing out at anything that offends him, he is extremely predictable. Insisting that he's intelligent and might have some plan means ignoring the actual threat he's waving in our face constantly.
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Agreed. I also think an important question is, will the Republicans go all the way with him, and if they do, will Democrats be able to stop them?
My point was that by insisting he has no intelligence whatsoever, you run the risk of ignoring a more coherent threat. You don't want to overestimate him, but underestimating would be equally dangerous.
Edited by Redmess on Aug 18th 2020 at 7:10:50 PM
Hope shines brightest in the darkest timesTrump isn't the dangerous one here.
His cult (aka: "MAGA" and "GOP") are since they are the ones that are giving him the power to do all the autocratic and insane things he keeps sporadically spouting on a daily basis.
Deal with those first and without them, Trump loses all his power faster than a Scooby-Doo villain when the mask comes off.
Edited by TitanJump on Aug 18th 2020 at 7:23:31 PM
Depends on what you mean by “all the way”, if we’re just focused on election rigging than yes all indicators are they will, this will include the stopping of recounts in red states so as to ensure Trump wins that state, that’s what the GOP did in 2000 to ensure Bush won Florida.
As for Democrats stopping them, it’s not so much stopping as mitigating. There been a level of election rigging in US elections as long as they’ve happened, it’s never been completely stoped, but it can be mitigated and overwhelmed.
Democrats are pushing hard on the postal service issue and ensuring that people get re-registered when they’re culled and stay in line all night.
The biggest asset democrats have is governorships, a number of key swing states have democrat governors, who can prevent a chunk of the election-rigging happening at a state level.
There’s a reason I don’t think Biden will he declared to win Georgia, it won’t matter if he gets more votes there, it’s a full GOP controlled state, they’ll find a way to steal it.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranStatement from DeJoy: he will be suspending USPS operational changes until after the elections.
Oh, good. Will he put back the changes he already made?
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I hope democrats don’t lighten up on the push for his removal, not jsut be whale he can’t be trusted, but a message needs to be sent to those who might consider helping Trump with his fraud.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranRe: USPS Mayhem
This is looking more and more likely to blow up in Trump's face, A fair chunk of his base LIKES the USPS, every social media site is covered with tips and tricks of how to vote by mail and how to make sure your vote is counted ect.
Its also ticking people OFF, and we have seen over the past 3-4 years that is motivating people like nothing else to get up, get out and VOTE.
Trump losing is still not a sure thing, but I have to say that Biden's chances are looking better and the idea that we MIGHT take the Senate while we are at it is now a possibility.
Speaking of the Trump administration's attempted rigging, at least 20 states plan to sue the Post office over the delays in service
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It's great to see a large chunk of the state's standing against Trump's attempt to subvert out democracy, hopefully, it'll bear fruit.
Technically it was always a possibility, especially once the pandemic happened, but yeah there is a non-zero chance that Trump's transparent attempt at rigging could backfire massively.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 18th 2020 at 12:50:00 PM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangCouple things.
One - I feel like Putin is likely to laugh him out of the country now that he's outlived his usefulness. - except Trump could still be useful in that situation because he'd be "officially" a "President-In-Exile" and a way to keep disrupting US politics if the media or politicians give him any of the attention he demands - and you know Fox News would be all too happy to oblige.
And for those pooh-poohing Trump as a useful idiot - the inherent problem is that he's essentially hijacked the party, to the point that not showing sufficient deference to him gets the Republican primaried, and a lot of the time (see: Jeff Sessions) losing the race because the base doesn't consider them extreme enough. That's a dangerous aspect to Trump that should not be glossed over.
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"Trump is not going to flee to Russia. That would require him to believe that his actions have consequences.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.If Trump truly worried about any consequences from his actions, the easiest thing for him to do would be to fake an Illness of some time, that would require Mike Pence to be temporarily promoted to President. Then Pence pardons Trump of any crimes, and all of a sudden, Trump's feeling better and he comes back as President. And while the Democrats call foul, the Republicans support the clear abuse of power.
Thankfully, if Trump did this, it means he lost to Biden so we'd only have to wait a few Months until he leaves anyways.

Well, I hope you're right that it is the latter, then.
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