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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Nope, we've only just gotten started. A confrontation of any kind with China has been a long time coming.
Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Aug 11th 2020 at 11:59:30 AM
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
I've already pointed out the difference. Besides, I'm not exactly a fan of a political coalition calling themselves "Blue Dogs" either.
A little late for that, unless you weren't born yet when the Iraq War happened.
Edited by M84 on Aug 12th 2020 at 12:02:21 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedI know the origin of the term 'Tea Party' (I should know, those petulant colonists dumped all of our precious tea into the sea like uncultured cretins!!!), but whenever I used to hear it back in the day - and still now to some extent - I can only picture, like, self-proclaimed libertarian champions of industry having a literal tea party, complete with sipping out of little teacups with a pinky finger raised up.
Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!![]()
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It's not like this started with the Blue Dogs. FFS, one of our major political parties over here is literally named for a word for thieves (well, not FORMALLY... like anyone cares). Naming things is just part and parcel of politics.
I'm sure we could find examples from Athens or Rome.
Edited by RainehDaze on Aug 11th 2020 at 5:07:42 PM
@CrimsonZephyr: You make that sound like a good thing. I can't stress this enough, I don't want any sort of confrontation between the US and China, and I especially don't want a nuclear conflict. This is the one thing giving me anxiety right now.
My apologies.
Edited by AngrokVa on Aug 11th 2020 at 12:16:55 PM
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Yeah, I'm not exactly looking at UK politics as an example of mature political discourse. Looking at the way Parliament is run there makes the U.S. Congress look like a bastion of maturity. And the U.S. Congress is not a bastion of maturity.
This thread isn't the place to work out your anxiety issues.
Edited by M84 on Aug 12th 2020 at 12:16:39 AM
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More that it was inevitable, is what I'm getting, whenever you have an established superpower on one side and a rising power on another. US and China is only the current version — before that there's the US and Soviet Union for the Cold War, the three-way tangle between US/UK/France vs Axis Powers vs Soviet Union, British and German Empires in the late 19th/early 20th Centuries, Britain and France through the 18th Century and into Napoleon...
x4 There's always the Progressive Party, if they even run in the Governor's races.
No. Both because a collapse of China would likely not be peaceful, and even if it was the currently empowered factions aren't going to be any friendlier.
Edited by AzurePaladin on Aug 11th 2020 at 12:23:44 PM
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -FighteerEven in the United States, we shouldn't forget about Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose Party. :V
If they have a sudden and unexpected economic crisis, maybe. But as Azure pointed out, it wouldn't be a walk in the park even ignoring the apparent unlikelihood of such an event.
Edited by PresidentStalkeyes on Aug 11th 2020 at 5:25:42 PM
Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!Which is weird since moose aren't even particularly common in the USA. You're more likely to associate them with Canada. Sure, you can find them in Alaska and New England, but they're mostly Canadian.
It'd be like if a President declared that poutine is the USA's new national dish <shudder>.
Edited by M84 on Aug 12th 2020 at 12:27:52 AM
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Zuckerman is a Progressive Party member, so I'd assumed he automatically had their nomination.
Edit: Yep, he's their candidate for governor, too. I guess it's not super important, though, since it looks like Gov. Scott is probably going to be reelected.
Edited by nova92 on Aug 11th 2020 at 9:28:08 AM
M84: The Bull Moose moniker came because Teddy Roosevelt had been shot by an attempted assassin right before he gave a campaign speech in the 1912 Election. He went on with the speech as usual, adding at the end that he had just been shot but "it takes more than that to stop a bull moose." (Roosevelt was an avid hunter and loved national parks.) The nickname stuck when he got back on the campaign trail two weeks later.
Edited by megarockman on Aug 11th 2020 at 12:35:00 PM
The damned queen and the relentless knight.

"Squad" isn't even a formal name unlike, say, the "Blue Dog" caucus.
Even if Biden wins (and I really hope he does), the only difference will be that whatever measures Biden takes against the CCP will have some actual thought put into them.
Edited by M84 on Aug 11th 2020 at 11:58:53 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised