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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Yeah, the people chose Biden, which is why Bernie has endorsed him and done everything he can to promote him as well as work with him.
It's almost like Bernie believes in democracy and defeating Trump.
Bernie in the end is a soldier in the fight against fascism.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 9th 2020 at 3:11:12 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.Yes, Bernie's actions this time around are far better, no question. But Biden should be under no obligation to only serve 4 years. If he beats Trump, he's earned the right to run again if he desires.
Bernie's issue is he hates Trump but doesn't seem to view his voters as a problem. He's given cover to the racism that helped bring us Trump more than once. "I don't think most people voting for Trump are racist or sexist." Or "People who weren't necessarily racist felt uncomfortable voting for a black person." He doesn't understand when issues deviate from the strictly economic.
Edited by Lightysnake on Aug 9th 2020 at 3:13:46 AM
so we're still on the Bernie run around? *slowly sips tea*
Edit: Also can we let 2024 be 2024, because so far I'm not entirely sure we're hitting 2021 with how this year is going.
Edited by 3of4 on Aug 9th 2020 at 12:18:57 PM
"You can reply to this Message!"Regarding AOC and the Presidency; even if you ignore her lack of qualifications (especially on foreign policy), her national approval ratings are atrocious.
Give her 10-15 years, and maybe the conditions are right. But not 4.
I imagine that the spirits of Lincoln and Teddy would animate their respective heads and disrupt the work before they let that happen.
Edited by Rationalinsanity on Aug 9th 2020 at 7:20:20 AM
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Yeah it’s not clear how total Trump’s takeover has been, candidates similar to him or with his backing have lost primaries.
But I could see that changing, if Trump looses any GOP voters blame the loss on internal sabotage they could end up primarying out more people post-Trump.
A lot will also depend on Trump personally, former presidents/candidates tend to go pretty quiet, Trump doesn't do quiet.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranIf they lose every seat up for grabs in the Senate, their party will pretty much be dead. Expect the Lincoln Project Republicans to either attempt to salvage it or try to start a new conservative party. I'd hope that this will lead to a change where the system is changed up to where multiple parties can exist instead of 2. That alone would change things up, and would allow a party for Progressives, Conservatives, moderates, etc etc to exist.
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Nothing is perfect, and it's infinitely better than the two-party system we have now, since one party can get corrupted like the GOP and take full control. Meanwhile with multiple parties, it would require a hell of a lot more to corrupt the system.
Edited by ScubaWolf on Aug 9th 2020 at 6:46:41 AM
"In a move surprising absolutely no one"The problem with using the UK as an example is that we're still a first-past-the-post system, and as ever that means that changes in only a particular demographic can have sweeping electoral impacts.
Plus our electorate has a really weird problem with electing what it wants, which we talked about at some length a while back.
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Okay then, let's just keep the two party system, and not try to stop corruption. There's no point after all right? We should just accept everything that happens and not even fix any problems, since nothing will ever be perfect.
Edited by ScubaWolf on Aug 9th 2020 at 6:55:18 AM
"In a move surprising absolutely no one"

I mean, maybe neither of them should have run, but Biden has been dominating electorally in the primary and in the polls. It wasn't even close in the former.