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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#323001: Aug 9th 2020 at 1:29:01 PM

Not his progressive platform? Or the judges he'd appoint?

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#323002: Aug 9th 2020 at 1:44:40 PM

His third best quality is his willingness to compromise with more progressive platforms.

But no, I mean truly that I admire and applaud Joe Biden for his willingness to step aside after one term and let younger as well as newer figures in the Democratic Party step up. My hope is that he'll pass the torch to Kamala Harris and she'll be the President after him but I'm willing to accept whoever he chooses as his successor.

A man who makes a one term pledge and intends to keep it has my respect.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#323003: Aug 9th 2020 at 1:49:14 PM

Or the endless potential dad jokes?

Also, Biden tells Fox News reporter that he has selected his running mate while riding his bike. When the reporter asks who it is, Biden says, "You," as he rides past him.

ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#323004: Aug 9th 2020 at 1:49:55 PM

[up] 10/10 trolling.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#323005: Aug 9th 2020 at 1:50:05 PM

Even if the Biden admin is relatively popular when the 2024 primaries heat up, if Biden is stepping aside, I expect his VP will not run uncontested.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#323006: Aug 9th 2020 at 1:55:45 PM

The thing is, Biden has never made a pledge to step aside after one term.

Nor, honestly, should he.

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#323007: Aug 9th 2020 at 1:56:30 PM

Even if he intends to, he should not announce it ahead of the next election. Lame duck presidents lose a ton of influence with Congress and also with international figures.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#323008: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:02:05 PM

The thing is, Biden has never made a pledge to step aside after one term.

Nor, honestly, should he.

Why?

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devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#323009: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:03:44 PM

He has absolutely nothing to gain by pledging that, and plenty to lose. Biden can make that decision in 4 years.

singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#323010: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:04:40 PM

(On not announcing before the next election...)

Well, he kinda has to some time before November 2024...

Seriously though, one of the top reforms Biden could do is run for one term but not tell anyone till January 2024.

It would defacto cut the Democratic primary down from the 21 month marathon to a far more manageable 7 or so months.

I honestly don't know how a presidential campaign lasts two years...

Edited by singularityshot on Aug 9th 2020 at 2:07:07 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#323011: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:05:33 PM

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/511218-kudlow-says-trump-did-not-mean-he-was-eliminating-the-social

The White House has already backtracked on Trump and social security.

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#323012: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:12:34 PM

Yes, let's have Biden step in for four years to apply Band-Aid brand bandages to the nation's wounds and then step aside, because he isn't progressive enough. Bang that drum, folks.

Biden's 77 and Sanders is 78. If you think Biden's too old, then the logic speaks for itself. Warren will be 75 in 2024; she might still be up for it, but that's highly speculative.

Edited by Fighteer on Aug 9th 2020 at 5:14:25 AM

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AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#323013: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:13:54 PM

[up] Is...there an issue with that?

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#323015: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:16:00 PM

I'd rather Biden be a one-term president, but also that he should do as a good politician does, and only signal without stating or confirming that he's going to do just the one term until he's a fair way into the term and we know that the country is at least stable enough that him leaving the Oval Office won't result in a succession crisis of some kind.

Edited by AlleyOop on Aug 9th 2020 at 5:18:18 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#323016: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:16:50 PM

I just can't help but think this particularly discussion is putting the cart before the horse. Biden hasn't even won, and if he does we still have to see how he'll do.

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#323017: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:17:12 PM

Biden's 77 and Sanders is 78. If you think Biden's too old, then the logic speaks for itself. Warren will be 75 in 2024; she might still be up for it, but that's highly speculative.

Is there a problem with wanting to have not recycled the same presidential candidates for over a decade at that stage?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#323018: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:18:40 PM

For all we know, even if Biden wins, some people may be so extreme that he will end up being a one-term president not even by his own volition (up to you what kinds of reasons may be why). We just can't tell at this point.

AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#323019: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:23:11 PM

Look, the pitch was that everyone should coalesce into a Popular Front to beat Trump. I can't conceive of why challenging Biden after that is somehow still objectionable.

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#323020: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:29:32 PM

If you are looking for a youthful progressive presidential candidate in 2024, AOC will turn 35 right before the presidential election and will be eligible to run.

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#323021: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:32:14 PM

Oh god no, I like her and call but she’s not qualified now and won’t be by 2024.

Youthful in this case means the age of Harris, Booker, Duckworth, Mayor Pete, ect...

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NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#323022: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:34:39 PM

One of my friends has floated the idea of "old enough to vote, old enough to run". Basically, opening up running for President to anyone 18 and up.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#323023: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:36:27 PM

AOC's done next to nothing to indicate she's ready to be President. She's a -term Congresswoman

Biden leaving gives up an incumbent advantage, with a guy who, if polling holds up, delivered a dominating defeat to the GOP on all branches, in favor of a chaotic primary.

AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#323024: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:37:36 PM

I like AOC a lot, but I'd prefer she tries to take Schumer's position when he inevitably leaves office. She could do a lot of good in the Senate, Presidency would be better off in the hands of someone who has more political experience (not necessarily in higher office, activists are good too). Like Booker.

Edited by AzurePaladin on Aug 9th 2020 at 5:37:44 AM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#323025: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:44:10 PM

I feel the argument with Biden falls apart if you assume I'd want Bernie to be President for two terms.

He is ALSO too old for two terms and missed his last chance.

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