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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Damnit Tangent, your anecdote bummed me out! Thinking of a little sister being all sad because there's still more political ads is heartbreaking.
WHY WON'T ANYBODY PLEASE Think of the Children!?!?
Counter point of A- lowering costs of printing stuff in ton of languages and B- encouraging immigrants to learn the language.
Multiculturalism surives just fine with english being the official language. My whole family is(mainly) Italian, we just speak english, but we havn't lost our roots.
Agreed, to an extent. Theres nothing wrong with having your own traditions but we shouldn't try so hard to separate ourselves. thats what leads to race issues.
edited 12th Oct '12 9:47:46 PM by Joesolo
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Exactly. There's nothing wrong with celebrating your culture or your roots, however it would be for the benefit of the nation if we encouraged the learning of the language that is held by the large majority of the country.
edited 12th Oct '12 9:53:05 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Right. I remember something that happened a few years ago where a famous cheesessteak place in philly put up signs that "you must order in english", and all these "latino rights" groups came out of the wood work attacking him saying his family were immigrants too, ect. The point is, this country doesnt completely change for you. You come here to join the nation and it's community. We're not saying you cant have your traditions, we encourage it if anything. but you need to learn our language.
I'm baaaaaaackWe don't need an official language. And at this point insisting that it be English is spitting in several people's faces. Like say, the Cherokee, who were loooooooooooong before any English speaking person. And to insist on it right now is ridiculous. It's already the lingua franca, and it's taught in every single school in the country. English has the overwhelming advantage.
We don't need to put it in a fucking law, that's just being spiteful as far as I can see.
I'm sure the guy you're complaining about also has ads in English for your delicate ears.
And this isn't even getting into Puerto Rico, which is prominently Spanish speaking and may at some point be a state.
The official language of a country is one which defines what language the law is written in. We already de-facto have that. Any law which tries to get passed in a different language is likely to be shot down.
Passing a law to make English the official language is like engraving your house key to say "THIS IS MY KEY PLEASE DO NOT STEAL."
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry![]()
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If they can write in English, then they'll be fine.
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We'll then I'm a very spiteful person for wanting it.
But you have point on Puerto Rico, they'll need to be excluded.
edited 12th Oct '12 10:15:56 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016@Tangent: Are you sure it's your sister that's watching My Little Pony and not...you?
Glen Ford argues that Obama is the "more effective of the two evils".
It's a very long interview, but I think it's a good critique of Obama and his impact on the American Left.
Evangelist Billy Graham all but endorses Mitt Romney.
I counter your rambling man with a rambling man of my own!
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Hey, there is nothing wrong with ponies!
...or so I've heard.
edited 12th Oct '12 11:31:23 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016I don't like that reverend Graham is making a direct political comment to the news, or the news trying to get such a comment out of him.
For evangelists, it's not supposed to be about what the government is, who you elect. It's fulfilling your duty in whatever government that is erected, whoever is elected. Who you actually vote for should be left to individuals.
Graham was a close spiritual adviser to both Ike and Nixon.
His past, connections to the White House, and role in The Civil Rights Movement makes him as much of a politician as it does an Evangelist
Kinda like Jesse Jackson or MLK.
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016On Obama going to The Daily Show.
Jon Stewart sure as hell better question him on Campaign Finance Reform and the Grand Bargain!
Porn Industry Supports Barack Obama Over Mitt Romney, According To Poll
Now Obama is truly unstoppable, for he who controls the porn; controls the people.
Gary Johnson: ‘A Quarter of the Syrian Rebels are Al-Qaida’
Bachmann Faces Competitive Re-Election Bid In Minnesota.
I'll be so happy if she loses.
edited 13th Oct '12 12:14:05 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016

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he didn't even have english subtitles. It'd be nice to know more than every third word he's saying.
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