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#32026: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:34:21 PM

Ryan wasn't honest throughout this debate.

But his statement there was "honestly, I can't offer anything that no one else can. All I have to offer is some stuff that Obama/Biden can't."

It's a step away from the "candidate as saving messiah for the nation" attitude, and I like it.

edited 11th Oct '12 7:36:05 PM by EdwardsGrizzly

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#32027: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:34:31 PM

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I'd say yes, but I'm waiting for the polls.

[up]

True.

edited 11th Oct '12 7:35:02 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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GearLeader from Dota Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
#32028: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:35:02 PM

Ah Serji were did u go?

And there you go, if your a VP NEVER SAY JACK KENNEDY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXkI1sTDoEg
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#32029: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:35:46 PM

Technically, you don't win a debate unless you convince your opponent to admit they were wrong and you were right. In all the history of presidential and vice-presidential debates, I don't think that's ever happened.

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#32030: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:36:34 PM

On paper objectively and my opinion Biden won.

Realistically considering how the last debate turned out? Ryan won

#32031: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:36:45 PM

In elections, you win a debate if afterwards more people who watch it switch from the other guy to you than switch from you to the other guy.

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#32032: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:37:09 PM

Eliot Spitzer and John Fugelsang believe it was a draw. Cenk Uygur and Jennifer Granholm believe Biden won.

edited 11th Oct '12 7:38:21 PM by Serocco

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GearLeader from Dota Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
#32033: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:37:26 PM

It was a good debate though i will admit.

CNN is calling a draw

edited 11th Oct '12 7:37:42 PM by GearLeader

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXkI1sTDoEg
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#32034: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:38:34 PM

[up] As always.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Couchpotato20 Will kill you from Hell Since: Apr, 2011
Will kill you
#32035: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:38:49 PM

@rmctagg

Is that a trick question? Biden obviously won. Flawless effing victory.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#32036: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:38:56 PM

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CNN declares everything a draw.

edited 11th Oct '12 7:39:09 PM by Midgetsnowman

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#32037: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:39:05 PM

Raddatz was much better than Lehrer as a moderator. Much better.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
johnnyfog Actual Wrestling Legend from the Zocalo Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Actual Wrestling Legend
#32038: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:39:38 PM

It's a slight bump for the Obama camp at any rate. Will he blow it?

...excuse me, I'm going to go to sleep forever.

I'm a skeptical squirrel
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#32039: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:39:46 PM

Wolf Blitzer is calling this a draw.

You can see why I think CNN is just a big old appeal to the middle fallacy.

Which is ironic because Romney won for the same reason Biden was doing so well, being loud and aggressive.

GearLeader from Dota Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
#32040: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:39:54 PM

We did have a better moderator, cracked the whip a few times for sure

The smiling and the laughing

edited 11th Oct '12 7:40:33 PM by GearLeader

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXkI1sTDoEg
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#32041: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:40:48 PM

Undoubtedly, Biden will be seen as derisive and disdainful (I don't think he was).

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
#32042: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:40:56 PM

Dang, Obama electoral advantage just dropped like a rock on RCP. It's practically dead even.

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#32043: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:41:31 PM

[up] What source says that?

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Nettacki Since: Jan, 2010
#32044: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:42:42 PM

One of the guys at CNN agreed that Ryan's "under duress" quote was really pushing it.

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#32045: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:43:00 PM

See? And the next debate Romney will win by Red Oni ness which won't be seen as disdainful and the cycle will continue.

This Is Gonna Suck

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#32046: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:43:24 PM

The RCP map has Obama leading by only 20 electoral votes.

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Couchpotato20 Will kill you from Hell Since: Apr, 2011
Will kill you
#32047: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:43:46 PM

Paul Ryan did nothing but lie while being stone faced so as to not give away how nervous he was in fooling folks. Also lol @ CNN appealing to moderates. Tie my ass.

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GearLeader from Dota Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
#32048: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:43:50 PM

With all this tuff going on, you turn it to HLN and its about them finding the body of a dismembered little girl...

I think we all need to look at America and think what we can do for ourselves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXkI1sTDoEg
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#32049: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:43:52 PM

Any insta-polls?

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
#32050: Oct 11th 2012 at 7:44:02 PM

Right here.

Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, New Hampshire, and Wisconsin all went from Lean Obama to Toss Up. Romney actually has a slight lead in Florida now.

EDIT: That was in response to your earlier question.

edited 11th Oct '12 7:49:38 PM by EdwardsGrizzly

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