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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#291626: Oct 6th 2019 at 3:09:49 AM

[up][up] True.

But Donald Trump is a highly unstable individual and not shy from escalating his attacks if his usual methods goes blunt and loses their bites.

I just want to be prepared in case he does something that might never be able to become undone in anyone's lifetime.

(I hope he's too cowardly and sane enough to not launch a nuke or anything like that, even considering his eagerness to launch them for any reason whatsoever, like against hurricanes...)

But considering that the guy believes that he himself is America and put himself first in any case...let's say that the presidency will never be the same as it once was once he's finally gone.

(hopefully karma comes back to bite him hard through the choices of lifestyle he has made across his life, such as only living on fast-food out of fear for poisoning, or not exercising even on standard levels of human activity...)

It's safe to say that he has not provided a single positive thing to the american people so far, and it has been three years already...

Hold on.

When exactly is it that the main democratic candidate for the 2020 election will be decided again?

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[up] Survive as a major superpower in the world, that is.

Edited by TitanJump on Oct 6th 2019 at 12:10:41 PM

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#291627: Oct 6th 2019 at 3:10:04 AM

I think one of the various pretexts used for the impeachment of Andrew Johnson was actually an implication that he'd somehow been involved in Lincoln's assassination.

Also, the guy who attempted to assassinate Theodore Roosevelt in 1912 did so in part because he believed that T.R. orchestrated the assassination of William McKinley.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#291628: Oct 6th 2019 at 3:12:07 AM

Basically, conspiracy theories are nothing new. It's just that advances in mass media make it easier and easier for them to spread like a mental virus.

Disgusted, but not surprised
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#291629: Oct 6th 2019 at 3:19:49 AM

Conspiracy theories are more about the person doing the theorizing than they are about external reality. This is why they can sometimes seem to have no basis in truth whatsoever and yet people still believe them.

[up][up][up] Maybe take some deep breaths.

Edited by archonspeaks on Oct 6th 2019 at 3:20:48 AM

They should have sent a poet.
TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#291630: Oct 6th 2019 at 3:24:26 AM

[up] What for? That post wasn't written in the midst of a hysterical outburst.

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Also, asking again: When is the final date for the main democrat candidate to be decided for the election?

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#291631: Oct 6th 2019 at 3:25:35 AM

Hysterical maybe not but it's pretty alarmist and more doomsaying than any kind of real speculation

Oh really when?
TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#291632: Oct 6th 2019 at 3:32:46 AM

[up] Ah, I see.

(Well, that's what happens when a bunch of people sitting in front of the computer, uses the same account to post and participate in a debate.)

It's still fair to have some sense of alarm and concern though in these matters, as remaining only positive isn't a good standpoint to hold either.

That said, I will not dive deeper into this one.

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I'm not going to get the question of the date for the final selection of the democrat candidate answered, am I?

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#291633: Oct 6th 2019 at 3:33:21 AM

Yeah it just sounds like you’re trying to bait other people to do the doomsaying for you.

Edit: The candidate is officially selected at the convention (13-16 July 2020) but it’s likely that it becomes clear who they are well before that point.

Edited by Silasw on Oct 6th 2019 at 10:36:21 AM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#291634: Oct 6th 2019 at 3:36:55 AM

[up] (I am apologizing for it as that is not the intention behind those posts, in any way.)

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I see. Thanks for that.

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Since this is the politics thread, are there any other news that have arrived today regarding this topic or does the news flow slow down during the weekends? It feels as such, for some reason...

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#291635: Oct 6th 2019 at 4:26:04 AM

Well, the Supreme Court term begins soon and sure enough there are a lot of scary things on the plate:

  • Whether states can abolish the insanity defense.
  • Whether Title VII of the Civil Rights Act applies to LGBT people.
  • Whether the Appointments Clause applies to US territories. If it does, this would allow Trump and the scum in the Senate to appoint the mayor of Washington DC and governors in Puerto Rico etc.
  • Whether states can prosecute immigrants who use false Social Security numbers.
  • Whether life in prison can be applied to juveniles.
  • Whether Trump can unilaterally rescind DACA.
  • Whether federal law enforcement is allowed to damage people w/o any possibility to claim damages in return.
  • Whether claims of racial discrimination require proof of blatant racism.
  • Whether the 2nd amendment mandates that public carry of weapons be allowed.
  • Whether states that subsidize private schools also need to subsidize parochial schools.

Plus an abortion case which IMO deserves far less attention than it receives.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#291636: Oct 6th 2019 at 4:48:19 AM

...So we're at the point where religious exemptions are on the verge of being written into law?

So much for the First Amendment.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#291637: Oct 6th 2019 at 4:53:33 AM

Oi.

I forgot the most important thing.

In less than a week, Louisiana holds the first round of its gubernatorial election. The Democratic incumbent John Bel Edwards has a chance to clinch the election on the first round, if he gets 50%+1 the whole election is decided. More information here.

Later, in a month Kentucky has its gubernatorial election. That race is a bit more of a tossup but the incumbent Republican Matt Bevin is a piece of work. More information here.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#291638: Oct 6th 2019 at 5:14:44 AM

Scoop: Trump pins Ukraine call on Energy Secretary Rick Perry – Trump told House Republicans that Perry convinced him to phone Zelensky.

https://www.axios.com/trump-blamed-rick-perry-call-ukraine-zelensky-8178447a-0374-4ac6-b321-a9454b0565d4.html

President Trump told House Republicans that he made his now infamous phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the urging of Energy Secretary Rick Perry — a call Trump claimed he didn’t even want to make.

Behind the scenes: Trump made these comments during a conference call with House members on Friday, according to 3 sources on the call.

Per the sources, Trump rattled off the same things he has been saying publicly — that his call with Zelensky was "perfect"and he did nothing wrong. But he then threw Perry into the mix and said something to the effect of: "Not a lot of people know this but, I didn't even want to make the call. The only reason I made the call was because Rick asked me to. Something about an LNG [liquefied natural gas] plant," one source said, recalling the president's comments. 2 other sources confirmed the first source's recollection.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#291639: Oct 6th 2019 at 5:24:38 AM

he's going to fire Perry isn't he?

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#291640: Oct 6th 2019 at 5:30:47 AM

[up]If Perry doesn't leap first, yes.

Obvious move is obvious.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#291641: Oct 6th 2019 at 5:37:50 AM

Perry is already on his way out.

He is legitimately linked to the Impeachment inquiry, but this does come off as Trump trying to scapegoat. A later part of the the Axios article notes that the White House acknowledged the conference call where Trump made those claims but the readout they released about it made no mention of Perry.

Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 6th 2019 at 6:38:38 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#291642: Oct 6th 2019 at 5:39:43 AM

Whether life in prison can be applied to juveniles.

WHAT?!?!

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#291643: Oct 6th 2019 at 5:45:24 AM

[up]Of course. What better for the prison industrial complex than catching them young and milking income from their existence for as long as possible?

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#291644: Oct 6th 2019 at 6:14:28 AM

So Trump has gone from trying to drag in Pence to trying to blame it all on Perry? I wonder who will be next?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Bur from Flyover Country (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#291645: Oct 6th 2019 at 6:39:30 AM

"Whether the 2nd amendment mandates that public carry of weapons be allowed."

Joy. :(

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#291646: Oct 6th 2019 at 7:58:26 AM

[up][up]With a meltdown? Just about anybody within range. <shrugs>

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#291647: Oct 6th 2019 at 9:13:44 AM

Apparently there's now a second whistleblower, also from the intelligence community. Who knows, maybe more will step up.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
a
#291648: Oct 6th 2019 at 9:24:28 AM

The big thing about the second whistleblower is that, evidently, they have even more firsthand information of the phone call than the first one has.

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#291649: Oct 6th 2019 at 12:30:35 PM

Former Trump orgnization exce believes Trump could resign. She believes that Trump would likely resign to save face rather than face impeachment. I could sorta see that happen, but I also doubt it would go that way since resigning would mean Trump looks weak.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#291650: Oct 6th 2019 at 12:32:39 PM

Trump isn't going to be removed through impeachment though is the problem.

Republicans don't have the balls

Oh really when?

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