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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#291326: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:20:16 AM

Gotta agree. His entire brand is built on "asshole."

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#291327: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:21:23 AM

Trump sure likes him some autocrats.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#291328: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:23:02 AM

It's entirely possible. They could nominate an authoritarian that's actually good at it.

This is a possibility, but I'm not sure how probable it is. I mean, things like Trump's anti-intellectualism and lack of a filter and clear bigotry are why they like him, if the Republican base was willing or able to support smart authoritarians then we wouldn't have Trump.

I'm not saying his replacement can't be dangerous, Trump's a moron and he's still highly dangerous, but I'm not an actually smart and competent authoritarian is in the card's for them.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#291329: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:30:11 AM

Sure he is an asshole, but he always rants against the Left, trying to portray himself as super-conservative.

And then he gives props to an actual communist regime.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#291330: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:37:59 AM

The People's Republic of China is communist in name only, at this point they're just authoritarian state capitalist.

What's actually odd about his congratulations is that Trump has shown himself to be relentlessly hostile to China, it's a weird mixed message.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#291331: Oct 1st 2019 at 10:51:41 AM

I haven't heard anyone even use the communist angle in ages.

It's usually just a thinly veiled racism thing when it comes to the right and their dislike of China.

Edited by LeGarcon on Oct 1st 2019 at 1:52:08 PM

Oh really when?
KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#291333: Oct 1st 2019 at 11:17:16 AM

Trump praising China when he's normally super aggressive to them comes across as part of the facade he puts on for his hardcore followers,publicly he'll condemn them,start a trade war with them and generally be uncooperative towards them,but privately he's probably the opposite,mostly for his own benefit mind you,it's only when he has to be president in public with everyone watching that he really lays into China

Ergo,he;s two faced about China because he make a lot of money out of them and he can't afford to alienate them

Well there's that or he praised China blindly because someone told him to

Edited by Ultimatum on Oct 1st 2019 at 8:04:07 AM

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#291334: Oct 1st 2019 at 4:36:03 PM

Trump literally wants to be Dr. Evil: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/us/politics/trump-border-wars.html

He wanted the border wall to be electrified, have spikes on top, a moat with alligators and snakes in it, and Border Patrol to shoot migrants in the legs.

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#291335: Oct 1st 2019 at 4:38:20 PM

And fill the moat with sharks! And lasers! And sharks with lasers!

Seriously, anybody listening to this and not thinking that he's patently unfit for office has a few screws loose themselves.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#291336: Oct 1st 2019 at 4:39:51 PM

You know, that actually sounded funny for a second because of how cartoonishly evil it is, but then I read the article and he talked about how soldiers should shoot migrants on sight and then I realized that it's just evil.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#291337: Oct 1st 2019 at 4:41:58 PM

At this point he's making promises like he did during the 2016 election,the thing is his promise of building a wall has hardly been achived yet so promising further things to go with wall just makes him sound like he's trying to feed their imagination,but without an actual wall like he promised it's empty promise,can't have one without the other so to speak

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#291338: Oct 1st 2019 at 5:15:21 PM

Seriously, anybody listening to this and not thinking that he's patently unfit for office has a few screws loose themselves.
I like to describe that as "drowning in Jim Jones's special blend almond flavor-ade".

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#291339: Oct 1st 2019 at 5:26:17 PM

Wall Street doesn't want her, but Silicon Valley is warming up to Warren.

They like her sharpness and clarity in her policies. They can deal with higher or lower tax policies, they just want to go back to the days of knowing what the tax policy even is.

A lot of individual employees actually like Warren taking on their employers, especially the people who walked out at Google. The grassroots support within their companies is causing the higher ups to take notice and consider supporting her over Biden.

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Lost in Space
#291340: Oct 1st 2019 at 6:36:20 PM

Do you think the Yang techbros (I hate that word, but it is astonishingly accurate at times) will fall back to Warren when their beloved billionaire buddy inevitably drops out? It would be very strange for them to flip to Sanders.

Edited by Fighteer on Oct 1st 2019 at 9:38:03 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#291341: Oct 1st 2019 at 7:02:12 PM

538: Would Elizabeth Warren Or Bernie Sanders Move To The Center Against Trump?

Several of Joe Biden’s top rivals in the 2020 Democratic primary are presenting themselves as more liberal on policy issues than the former vice president. But if Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris were to win the nomination, would they reposition themselves to appeal to more centrist voters in a general election?

This is an important question in the context of the Democratic primary. Some more centrist Democrats are worried that Sanders and Warren in particular are taking left-wing positions in the primary that will hurt them in the general election. So those Democrats might be reassured by the idea that these candidates would move right after the primary. Alternatively, some very liberal Democrats are worried that Harris and Warren aren’t truly committed to left-wing goals like Medicare-for-All. Is it likely that they would abandon their liberal stances after the primary?

If history is any indication, the Democratic candidates will move to the center, but not in the most obvious way. They won’t abandon core liberal policy stands. But they will both speak about themselves and their policy views in more moderate ways and choose a running mate aimed at appealing to voters who are not hardcore liberals.

So if Warren or (ugh) Sanders actually wins the nomination, they might pick a more moderate running mate to appease less leftist Democratic voters.

Also, it looks like the Ukraine scandal has resulted in Biden getting a lot more media coverage last week. More than the rest of the primary candidates combined.

The Media Mentioned Biden More Than All The 2020 Primary Candidates Combined Last Week

The story about President Trump’s call to Ukraine dominated the airwaves last week, and along with it came a lot more mentions of former Vice President Joe Biden. Two weeks ago, when the Wall Street Journal broke the news about the whistleblower complaint, cable news increased its coverage of Biden, but not online news outlets. But last week, that changed. As House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced an impeachment inquiry against Trump and the acting director of national intelligence testified in a public hearing in front of Congress, the share of online news stories that mention Biden also surged. Biden was mentioned in more cable news clips and online news stories last week than all other 2020 Democratic candidates combined, according to data from the TV News Archive 1 and Media Cloud.2

[up]I don't think there's any relevant recent polling data on Yang supporters' second choice.

Edited by M84 on Oct 1st 2019 at 10:07:23 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#291342: Oct 1st 2019 at 7:38:49 PM

The 538 podcast and Pod Save America both discussed how the only Democrats probably mad about impeachment are all the second-tier candidates whose little airtime they were getting is now being sucked up by the impeachment news. They probably have no chance to build any momentum now.

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#291343: Oct 2nd 2019 at 5:32:42 AM

[up][up] If Warren or Sanders win the nomination they will pretty much have to pick a running mate somewhat to their right just as Biden will have to pick somone to his left if he wins. Likewise Sanders or Biden will have to pick a woman and/or Po C while Warren will need a white male. Assuming that one of the current Big Three actually wins. Iowa and NH both have a habit of being wild cards.

Trump delenda est
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#291344: Oct 2nd 2019 at 6:01:30 AM

I actually think that, if Warren gets the nomination, she’ll probably pick a Black man as her running mate. Try to pick up some of Biden’s fans.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#291345: Oct 2nd 2019 at 6:50:02 AM

[up][up]To hell with them than, at this point none of them have a prayer unless multiple major scandals, deaths, or other shifts happen within the next few months. Its all the top three now.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#291346: Oct 2nd 2019 at 6:53:23 AM

I'd go so far as to say it's looking to be the top two. Sanders has failed to gain any traction. It's going to be Warren vs Biden unless something drastic happens soon.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#291347: Oct 2nd 2019 at 8:03:06 AM

Bernie Sanders cancels all events until further notice after he had chest pains last night from a blocked artery leading to surgery to insert two stents.

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Lost in Space
#291348: Oct 2nd 2019 at 8:04:16 AM

[up] Damn. I hope he recovers well, but this does highlight the other problem with Sanders as a candidate. I try to avoid ageism but the dude could easily die in office.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#291349: Oct 2nd 2019 at 8:09:38 AM

[up]Woo, a couple of stents. My dad's been getting new stents since the late 90s. <_<

Yeah, I'm a bit immune to the whole "imminent death possible" thing by now.

Edited by Euodiachloris on Oct 2nd 2019 at 4:10:35 PM

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#291350: Oct 2nd 2019 at 8:25:29 AM

Hopefully he'll fully recover and still be up and kicking for awhile yet.

...

If God forbid something should happen to him, how do you think it'll be before right wing conspiracy theorists, hardcore Bernie Bros, online trolls, etc., start an Elizabeth Warren kill list with Bernie as the first victim?

Edited by TheWanderer on Oct 2nd 2019 at 11:25:45 AM

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