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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#291176: Sep 28th 2019 at 1:04:45 PM

Democrats say White House stonewalling won't drag out inquiry and will boost case for impeachment – House Democrats are developing a new plan to deal with any White House stonewalling to their upcoming demands for records and testimony: They will use it as evidence for an article of impeachment against President Donald Trump, according to sources involved in the discussions.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/white-house-stonewalling-democratic-strategy/index.html

House Democrats are developing a new plan to deal with any White House stonewalling to their upcoming demands for records and testimony: They will use it as evidence for an article of impeachment against President Donald Trump, according to sources involved in the discussions.

Democrats are hoping that the tactic will force White House officials to make a choice: They could provide records to bolster the Democratic investigation, or they can resist the House subpoenas and add to the Democrats' case that Trump has sought to obstruct Congress. On Friday, three Democratic chairmen signaled their plans in the first round of subpoenas issued since Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced the impeachment inquiry earlier this week.

"Your failure or refusal to comply with the subpoena shall constitute evidence of obstruction of the House's impeachment inquiry," the chairmen wrote to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#291177: Sep 28th 2019 at 1:46:27 PM

Uh, The New York Times have been hacks for a while, this isn't Trump's power growing it's just media sources desperate to appear "unbiased" hiring Right-wing opinion writers and carrying water for the Right.

It's not a super new thing, and shouldn't be a cause for any particular concern.

Pretty much.

For some additional context, Fox and Friends was on TV this morning where I'm staying, and I heard the hosts complaining about the New York Times supposedly shilling for the Democrats. Just because they're trying to pander to the right, doesn't mean that they're being welcomed with open arms or anything.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#291178: Sep 28th 2019 at 3:04:42 PM

It's the eternal curse of stupid centrists everywhere, they pander to the Right all day every day but because they aren't completely servile they're still treated as enemies. It would be sad if they weren't helping terrible people.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#291179: Sep 28th 2019 at 3:19:59 PM

You'd think they'd learn by now that there's no point in trying to appease the right for that very reason.

i'm tired, my friend
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#291180: Sep 28th 2019 at 3:29:56 PM

Its the same dynamic with Conservatives and White Nationalists. If there is one thing Nazis hate even more than Liberals its "Cuckservatives" who aren't radical enough.

And yet these conservatives still do their biding, more or less.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#291181: Sep 28th 2019 at 4:27:56 PM

Mick Mulvaney, Trump's (acting?!) Chief of Staff is on thin ice for not doing the impossible and making Ukrainegate go away.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/28/politics/mick-mulvaney-impeachment-inquiry-donald-trump/index.html

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#291182: Sep 28th 2019 at 4:52:20 PM

So there was a recent Quinnipiac poll that reflects a lot of the trends we've been seeing of Warren gaining momentum, but it has a particular data point that I find very important: Biden's support from black voters has dipped from 53% to 40%. Meanwhile Warren has gone from 8% to 19% support from that same demographic in the last two months. Depending on just how much more Warren can gain from that demographic then Biden could be in serious trouble.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#291183: Sep 28th 2019 at 6:00:59 PM

Interesting.

Do not obey in advance.
Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#291184: Sep 28th 2019 at 6:29:41 PM

BUT HER EMAILS! lives on again. Trump's people are investigating aides and others that sent emails to Hillary to her private server. Definitely trying to confuse and stall the Ukraine investigations.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Bur from Flyover Country (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#291185: Sep 28th 2019 at 6:36:53 PM

Thirty years from now I hope I can watch a documentary about Hillary's emails and laaaaaaaaugh...

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#291186: Sep 28th 2019 at 6:44:30 PM

That's not a deflection, actually. Bizarre as it is, "BUT HER EMAILS THO" is actually relevant to this case.

Trump wanting Ukraine to investigate Biden is the part that's gotten all the attention, but that actually wasn't the only thing they discussed in the infamous call. Trump also inquired about the mythical Crowdstrike server.

There's this conspiracy theory that says that the cybersecurity company Crowdstrike has a server somewhere in the world that contains Hillary Clinton's 30,000 deleted emails, and it's believed to be in Ukraine. Finding that server is like a Grail Quest for QAnon and their ilk.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 28th 2019 at 7:45:25 AM

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#291187: Sep 28th 2019 at 6:53:26 PM

And depending on what day of the week it is Trump is either ranting about how it was Ukraine that really hacked the DNC servers and not Russia, or that Ukraine was secretly helping the Democrats to win in 2016.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#291188: Sep 28th 2019 at 7:16:35 PM

Ya know, I really feel for Kiev. Getting caught up in a Trump tantrum, denied vital aid, and having no path of escape. It isn't their shit show, but they've gotten stuck in as deep as anyone else.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#291189: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:43:02 PM

Their stance here seems to be “we have no idea what’s going on and want no part in it, please sell us Javelin missiles.”

They should have sent a poet.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#291190: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:46:56 PM

Oh wow, so Trump may get fucked over because of a Conspiracy Theory? What an ironic way to get hoisted by your own petard.

Do not obey in advance.
Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#291191: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:50:45 PM

Naturally, Hillary is having fun with her emails. If you want to avoid eye cancer, don't read the comments in that tweet.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#291192: Sep 28th 2019 at 9:10:26 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49805207

BBC article on Andrew Yang.

Has some interesting stuff on how some parts of the far right support his idea/policies.

warrior93 warrior93 from North Carolina Since: Feb, 2011
warrior93
#291193: Sep 28th 2019 at 10:36:41 PM

I like Andrew Yang a lot but I think too many far-right folks are attracted to him and not in order to become more left-wing

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#291194: Sep 28th 2019 at 10:40:36 PM

[up][up]

“One state has adopted a dividend. Everyone in that state gets one or two thousand dollars a year. Which state is that?" Yang asked, pointing at the crowd.

"Alaska!" A large portion of the crowd yelled back.

...Not gonna lie, I though the Simpsons Movie made that up.

Oh God! Natural light!
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#291195: Sep 28th 2019 at 10:46:49 PM

[up][up]As has been said, he's the white techbro candidate, which is not good if you're not one or both of those things. Doesn't help that he's associated himself with podcasters that could be very generously described as "conservative".

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Sep 28th 2019 at 1:48:03 PM

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#291196: Sep 29th 2019 at 5:08:02 AM

And a largely single issue nominee with zero public sector experience? No thanks.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#291197: Sep 29th 2019 at 5:18:54 AM

I mean I like Yang as he appears, he seems like a likeable guy.

But I really don't think he is presidential material.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#291198: Sep 29th 2019 at 5:20:12 AM

Personally I couldn't really care less if a President is "likeable". I'm not voting for someone I want to grab a beer with.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#291199: Sep 29th 2019 at 5:28:59 AM

> If you want to avoid eye cancer, don't read the comments in that tweet.

I read the comments and now im blind thanks a lot

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#291200: Sep 29th 2019 at 5:29:50 AM

Never go down too far in a Tweet comment thread. That way lies madness.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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