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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#291151: Sep 27th 2019 at 8:44:30 PM

Unfortunately, I think the beast is wounded but arguably not even dying. They got rid of their money pit network after all.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#291152: Sep 27th 2019 at 8:46:28 PM

Personally I think we should just classify the NRA as a foreign agent and then fine them to oblivion for not officially registering as such.

It'd prevent them from legally lobbying too.

Oh really when?
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#291153: Sep 27th 2019 at 9:57:34 PM

It's not even outside the realm of possibility. From a story I posted earlier today:

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals

NRA Was 'Foreign Asset' To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Reveals – Emails and interviews detail the extent to which the National Rifle Association helped two of Moscow's agents ahead of the election, Senate Finance Committee Democrats say

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#291154: Sep 28th 2019 at 4:46:50 AM

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/new-york-times-blasted-for-outing-whistleblower-and-putting-his-life-in-danger/

In other news,fuck the New York for attempting to expose the whistle blower,seriously I would not be at all surprised if they were in league with the Trump Administration,and the thing is,I knew this would happen

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#291155: Sep 28th 2019 at 6:08:33 AM

RE: "House of Quark" comparison

If you want to do something evil, put it inside something boring.

And yeah, that was... not a great move on the Times' part, but that can be partially chalked up to a mentality of "We want to be the first to break the news so that we can get all the clicks!"

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#291156: Sep 28th 2019 at 6:10:23 AM

These last few years have not been good for the NY Times' reputation.

Edited by M84 on Sep 28th 2019 at 9:10:53 PM

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#291157: Sep 28th 2019 at 6:15:39 AM

Apparently that editor warned a reporter it would be “dangerous” to leak the names of trump’s sponsors. Yeah, there’s a pretty clear bias there. Fuck the NYT.

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#291158: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:07:21 AM

This is actually pretty terrifying.

How many huge media sources / companies / whatever that we thought were relatively unbiased have in the last few years become part of New Trump World Order? This is like dystopian future novel shit

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#291159: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:09:34 AM

Uh, The New York Times have been hacks for a while, this isn't Trump's power growing it's just media sources desperate to appear "unbiased" hiring Right-wing opinion writers and carrying water for the Right.

It's not a super new thing, and shouldn't be a cause for any particular concern.

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#291160: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:15:38 AM

Big media companies don't understand that hiring writers/journalists regardless of which side they favor =/= unbiased.

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#291161: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:17:38 AM

Wonder if Trump is going to rename the "Failing New York Times"...

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#291162: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:19:05 AM

The NY Times really doesn't know how to handle an environment this polarized with one side being pretty obviously in the wrong compared to the other.

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#291163: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:21:50 AM

The NY Times really doesn't know how to handle an environment this polarized with one side being pretty obviously in the wrong compared to the other.

I don't think most people know how to deal with it either. I suspect that's part of the "appeal" of Biden: "I just want this to be over and for everyone to get along again". Even though that's not really possible.

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#291164: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:22:57 AM

That's basically it. NYT has some very good reporting — indeed, some of the best in the business — but they are unfortunately mired in the cult of centrism that's infected the mass-market media since the eighties. In order to appear unbiased, they present "both sides" of the arguments, then refuse to take a stand on which is right.

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#291165: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:24:25 AM

First sign of maturity: knowing that not everything is Black and White.

Second sign of maturity: knowing that sometimes things are Black and White.

A lot of media hasn't quite reached that second part.

Edited by M84 on Sep 28th 2019 at 11:25:57 PM

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MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#291166: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:27:33 AM

Still concerning, if you ask me.

In this country, even the supposed left-leaning media sources have some conservative bias.

I guess there is no true Left in America

Edited by MrHellboy on Sep 28th 2019 at 10:28:08 AM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#291167: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:30:11 AM

That only seems true if you go in for that "our left is Europe's center" stuff.

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#291168: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:34:30 AM

Yeah, the idea that the Left in the U.S. would be considered the Center in Europe has been a thing for a long time, but it's not really true. To be sure, most Europeans take things like universal healthcare and strong gun control as given, while they are still very controversial here, but European politics has been drifting rightward in much the same way as ours. It's a problem because you get this dismissive attitude coming into the conversation that stops it from moving forward. Our mainstream Left is active, vocal, and powerful.

If anything, the biggest difference is that, while we have some nutty "hard leftists" in the U.S., they aren't part of the political conversation unless some external agent stirs things up, like all the aid Russia gave to the Green Party in 2016. In a parliamentary system, they end up with some votes and thus some voice, able to swing politics with their choice of alliances. Not so here.

Edited by Fighteer on Sep 28th 2019 at 11:38:16 AM

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#291169: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:35:02 AM

The USA has a Left. It just doesn't have media networks with very obvious bias in their favor such as FOX News.

Edited by M84 on Sep 28th 2019 at 11:38:20 PM

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#291170: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:46:07 AM

The Shane Gillis controversy is amazing because of how it personifies the problem here.

SNL hired Shane Gillis because he's a right-winger who could provide a nice other side for their comedy. And then they had to fire him for going on a racist tirade.

That's the centrist fiasco in a nutshell right there. Bothsiders are constantly surprised by the sheer level of diplorableness that exists on the Right.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 28th 2019 at 9:46:55 AM

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#291171: Sep 28th 2019 at 8:53:15 AM

@Fighteer: Yeah, that idea become more and more laughable when you see the "European" Political Spectrum (Europe is put like that because Europe isn't a monolyth)

Like, Trump has people like him in Europe.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Sep 28th 2019 at 10:53:52 AM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#291172: Sep 28th 2019 at 9:35:16 AM

[up] UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson, comes to mind. Incidentally he's also under investigation by law enforcement.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#291173: Sep 28th 2019 at 9:36:37 AM

Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, Marine Le Pen, Victor Orban...the list goes on and on.

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Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#291174: Sep 28th 2019 at 9:47:03 AM

In short: Far-Right assholes exist on every continent of the world, and they all smell like the shit that they are full of.

Edited by Reflextion on Sep 28th 2019 at 12:47:45 PM

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#291175: Sep 28th 2019 at 9:51:22 AM

What makes Trump stand out is that he isn't a political veteran. His rise was meteoric.

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