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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#291076: Sep 26th 2019 at 1:36:00 PM

Recap on George Soros:

Guy who escaped being sent to a death camp in his youth, made it big in finance and currently a hedge fund manager, a supporter of free trade, regularly donates to liberal causes because he knows all too well the dangers of fascism (see the death camp thing mentioned earlier), and once broke the bank of England. Oh, and he's a bogeyman for every rightwinger out there. Alex Jones checks under his bed every night to make sure Soros isn't lying in wait for him. Viktor Orbán of Hungary also has a hate-boner for Soros.

Edited by M84 on Sep 26th 2019 at 4:39:14 PM

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RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#291077: Sep 26th 2019 at 1:44:42 PM

Right. So him having the finger pointed at him by Guliani is another day at the office.

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#291078: Sep 26th 2019 at 1:48:08 PM

The day a rightwinger doesn't screech "SOROS" as the reason for any single conspiracy theory will be the day the universe dies from heat death.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#291079: Sep 26th 2019 at 1:51:50 PM

And they'll blame that on Soros too.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#291080: Sep 26th 2019 at 1:52:55 PM

Its also funny how people constantly accuse Soros of not being an actual Jew, as he supposedly collaborated with the Nazis.

Yep. A 14 year old boy, big Nazi collaborator, for sure. Probably chief of the SS or something like that.

Edited by Forenperser on Sep 26th 2019 at 10:53:02 AM

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#291081: Sep 26th 2019 at 1:55:40 PM

Why is Soros such a common scapegoat? Is it JUST anti-semitisim? If it was why didn't they pick some one else? I mean, there is no doubt that that is a huge part of it, but why is it always specifically him in these anti-semetic conspiracy theories?

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#291082: Sep 26th 2019 at 1:57:09 PM

Because he actually is rich and influential. And he supports left-wing organizations.

I can't think of another Big Donor like him on the Left. He is essentially what the Koch brothers are/were for the Right.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#291083: Sep 26th 2019 at 1:57:58 PM

Its a name they can point to,its short and easy to remember

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#291084: Sep 26th 2019 at 2:00:27 PM

Why is Soros such a common scapegoat? Is it JUST anti-semitisim? If it was why didn't they pick some one else? I mean, there is no doubt that that is a huge part of it, but why is it always specifically him in these anti-semetic conspiracy theories?

It's because he's Jewish, there are other wealthy supporters of liberalism but they don't belong to demographics that as effectively fill far-right mythos as a Jewish man like Soros does.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#291085: Sep 26th 2019 at 2:00:59 PM

Fun Fact:

In the Empire series by Orson Scott Card, George Soros has his Expy found an organization of leftist radicals to take over the United States with mecha and G.I. Joe-esque superweapons.

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#291086: Sep 26th 2019 at 2:02:43 PM

And he's Jewish, which triggers all the subconscious antisemitism in certain right wing people. Remember, the "Jewish capital that rules the world" is a well-known antisemitic trope.

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 26th 2019 at 11:03:03 AM

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#291087: Sep 26th 2019 at 2:08:17 PM

Yeah, the "Jews/Zionists control the world" conspiracy is one of the seminal racist conspiracy theories. It's easy to mark Soros as a scapegoat precisely because of that.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#291088: Sep 26th 2019 at 2:13:58 PM

Or, as shown above, turn the entire narrative around, when it comes to right-wing jews like Ben Shapiro or Laura Loomer, who want to deny him his jewishness.

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#291089: Sep 26th 2019 at 2:19:07 PM

[up][up][up][up]Ew, Orson Scott Card. That guy should just admit he's a Republican already.

Honestly George Soros being at the head of any real far-left enterprise should be ridiculous on its face.

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#291090: Sep 26th 2019 at 2:19:50 PM

Ew, Orson Scott Card. That guy should just admit he's a Republican already.

Hasn't he?

Imca (Veteran)
#291091: Sep 26th 2019 at 2:23:36 PM

But isn't there any other big name Jewish people they could like focus on? What makes him like specificly out of all of them.

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#291092: Sep 26th 2019 at 3:20:48 PM

He's probably simply more well-known.

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#291093: Sep 26th 2019 at 3:23:10 PM

And one who isn't in the pockets of Republican interests.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#291094: Sep 26th 2019 at 3:23:35 PM

The answer is obvious,they don't know actually know people to actual smear so they go with Soros as a target,ergo they have a very small fragrance pool

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#291095: Sep 26th 2019 at 4:33:06 PM

I think you mean reference pool. Although given their ability to tolerate bullshit I would not be surprised if their fragrance pools were small too.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#291096: Sep 26th 2019 at 4:39:16 PM

bluntly,they are anti social loners who've never met a jew in their life and cling to name like George Soros because he's successful and they're not

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#291097: Sep 26th 2019 at 5:20:16 PM

OK, folks. We are willing to give it a try. Please be on your best.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#291098: Sep 26th 2019 at 7:02:27 PM

Some campaign humor: Mayor Pete was doing an interview with Hacks on Tap - whose hosts are David Axelrod, the Chief Strategist of Obama's campaign team, and Mike Murphy, a political consultant to McCain and Romney - and Murphy noticed that Buttigieg was campaigning with a bus full of reporters, similar to what McCain had done.

Murphy advised him to "water down the coffee and load them up on donuts like we did." That way after the sugar high has passed the reporters will be too tired to ask hard questions later on.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#291099: Sep 26th 2019 at 7:07:47 PM

Generally, if you really want reporters to softball questions, feed them. We as human beings are inclined to think better of those who offer us hospitality of any kind.

Though Murphy was almost certainly joking.

Edited by M84 on Sep 26th 2019 at 10:09:38 PM

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#291100: Sep 26th 2019 at 7:18:36 PM

@Parable I know it's extremely cynical (and a joke), but that's actually really clever.

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