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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Sanders has been lagging and shows no signs of gaining support. This is his critical problem: he has a bank of die-hard supporters but is unable to gain traction outside that demographic while someone like Warren is out there, sounding more sensible AND offering more detailed plans.
You see, I don't think Sanders realizes that his rallying cries aren't what most Democrats want. "Medicare for All", "$15 Minimum Wage", and "Break Up The Banks" are catchy slogans but are too trite, too pat.
- Yes, we want universal healthcare. No, we don't care what form it takes as long as it happens.
- Yes, we want wage guarantees, but it doesn't matter so much whether it takes the form of a higher minimum wage, a living income, MBI, etc.
- Yes, we want better regulation of the financial industry, but not all of us agree that tearing it down and starting over is the answer.
Further, we don't trust that Sanders has a realistic foreign policy (or indeed any foreign policy), nor that he has a plan for dealing with opposition within his own party, never mind Republican opposition. I haven't heard him talking that much about environmental policy, either, and with the Climate Strike that just happened and the increasing fear among everyone who isn't an idiot, it's becoming a bigger and bigger issue.
We want someone with a track record of legislative accomplishments, not someone who's spent his life yelling into the wind with little to show for it. We want someone who's going to unify the party, not a self-proclaimed outsider who's ridden its coat-tails while constantly fighting against it.
Yes. Not charging Trump conveys a far more powerful message: Democrats won't bother holding him to account because it's pointless. People see all the things he's done and ask, "Why isn't he being impeached?" To hear that the answer is a political one can only serve to diminish faith in the system. We must impeach at this point or the idea of the rule of law in this country is a sham.
Edited by Fighteer on Sep 25th 2019 at 10:10:42 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I'm sorry, I just don't get this. Basically, it falls into a very easy Logical Fallacy. So the assumption is that it'll work like something different from OJ that everyone will assume he's innocent but if he's not charged at all then somehow he's going to be viewed as MORE guilty?
Call me crazy but I think its much more likely charging him will convince more people he's guilty than not charging him at all. It's a bad strategy to believe (and do) otherwise.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Sep 25th 2019 at 7:08:47 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.Sanders's problem is that he's a Single-Issue Wonk. He is utterly 100% convinced that everything, every single thing wrong in the United States, will be solved if his economic policy passes.
Wage disparity, costs of healthcare, these are bad things and need to be solved. But Sanders seems to be under the impression that the only thing he'd need to do as President is solve these specific problems, and then that's it. Racism will end, sexism will end, foreign policy will be fixed, etc. He has this one platform and nothing else to his name.
This is what makes Elizabeth Warren more attractive as a candidate. She also wants to solve these problems, but she also has comprehensive plans for everything else too. She sees the economy as a piece of the puzzle, where Sanders sees it as the whole puzzle.
Also, Warren isn't pro-Russia so that's cool too.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 25th 2019 at 8:47:08 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Smoking gun. We got him.
By which I mean that he will continue to not face any consequences after Mitch's Senate exonerates him and FOX News will find a way to spin this as a political attack. But this provides a justification for dragging Trump into an impeachment hearing and laying out the evidence of his many, many crimes before and during his Presidency in a way that's easy to understand and, more importantly, easily reported on.
And doing it right in front of live news cameras, which will undoubtedly be present for the biggest televised political event of the century. After two years of uncovering the facts at a glacial pace and drip-feeding the public with this and that and the other thing, Democrats will finally have an opportunity to stand in front of an eagerly watching American Public and lay out "The Case Against Donald Trump" in its totality.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 25th 2019 at 9:33:07 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Also, continuing my train of thought, I hope the Democrats who will be working on the impeachment will keep that in mind.
We are NOT trying to convict Donald Trump in the Senate. That will never happen.
We must focus on trying to convict Donald Trump in the Court of Public Opinion.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 25th 2019 at 9:34:59 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I mean, that's honestly normal (I mean Trump speaking slowly)
Edited by KazuyaProta on Sep 25th 2019 at 10:47:12 AM
Watch me destroying my countryOn a diplomatic call that's being transcribed and/or interpreted, you want to speak slowly so there's no chance of a fuck-up in either of those.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"We are NOT trying to convict Donald Trump in the Senate. That will never happen.
We must focus on trying to convict Donald Trump in the Court of Public Opinion.
I'm going to be very definitive about this:
Looking at 2016, Elizabeth Warren pretty much should be the perfect candidate. She has pretty much everything that's good about Bernie mixed with everything people said made them support Hillary over Bernie and she has a better grasp on policies to achieve what needs to be achieved than both of them.
If you told me that Progressive scientists took Hillary and Bernie's DNA and then tweaked it to match everything everyone said they wanted in a candidate in 2016 and made a genetically engineered super democrat out of that and Elizabeth Warren was the result...
Well... I'd probably point out she was active before 2016, but I'd still be tempted to believe it.
Angry gets shit done.Indivisible is calling for that? Why am I not surprised.
Disgusted, but not surprised> I wonder if some Democrats just want him impeached so its a permanent mark on his record ala Bill.
I doubt very doubt much its payback, for Bill,it's more like he's broken the law and they want him held to account
Right now Trump is liability for them,having him impeached means President Pence can take over
have a listen and have a link to my discord server

To be fair, I don't think anyone here wanted Sanders
Watch me destroying my country