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KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#290501: Sep 19th 2019 at 2:01:04 PM

The system might be biased, but if the Government itself is against you (and you can bet a Dem. Government will be against Trump), then, you're screwed

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#290502: Sep 19th 2019 at 2:03:51 PM

Trump won't get punished even if the House packed with Democrats with a Democrat President,the people who actually served in his Government and carried out his orders on the other hand,if they're found to have broken the law then yeah they're in a rough ride

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#290503: Sep 19th 2019 at 2:06:14 PM

Yeah, I doubt Trump will actually face any legal consequences even if he does lose the election. Bob Mueller pointed out that he can be charged with a crime after he leaves office, but there's still a difference between "can" and "will".

Nobody wants to become the first President in history to immediately jail their predecessor. It's just not good optics. If Trump were successfully impeached (and before anyone says it, no, successful impeachment is not a possible outcome), then it'd be different. He could be arrested and prosecuted for the same crimes that got him impeached.

But, as it is, if Trump leaves office by the natural course of democracy, then it will just make his successor look petty and vindictive if they have him arrested. Which is not a great starting point for a President who is already going to be very busy trying to fix the awful situation Trump left the nation in.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#290504: Sep 19th 2019 at 2:08:51 PM

Here's the thing; even if Trump does choose to drop out, or loses in 2020 (to any Democrat, Biden, Warren, anyone), as long as he's alive and not currently in jail come 2024, he can run again, as everyone has the ability to run twice and that's it.

And if things go south (because of him, unfortunate and unpredictable events, and/or the Democratic Administration) by 2024, he will run again, and the scary thing is he would have a much greater chance to win.

Uh no, if he loses in 2020 then he's done. Running again would just give the Democrats a free win.

Same if he drops out, the kind of situation that's bad enough to penetrate his delusion is one that there would be no coming back from.

So no, this isn't true in the slightest.

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KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#290505: Sep 19th 2019 at 2:17:45 PM

That's actively imagining the worst possible scenario, Trump is very unpopular for multiple reasons and while he might have a actual base, they aren't the only ones voting

Edited by KazuyaProta on Sep 19th 2019 at 4:19:42 AM

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#290506: Sep 19th 2019 at 2:23:23 PM

Uh no, if he loses in 2020 then he's done. Running again would just give the Democrats a free win.

Would that necessarily stop him or his base?

Imagine Trump trying for a 2024 comeback and still winning the primary, then getting destroyed in the general while Moscow Mitch weeps in the corner.

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#290507: Sep 19th 2019 at 2:37:49 PM

Would that necessarily stop him or his base?

Imagine Trump trying for a 2024 comeback and still winning the primary, then getting destroyed in the general while Moscow Mitch weeps in the corner.

Probably, Trump is a very weak man. If he loses then he'll cry about it being rigged and then retire to Trump TV. Running again after the humiliation of being defeated is not something he'd ever do.

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#290508: Sep 19th 2019 at 2:44:56 PM

There's a distinct chance that if Trump loses in 2020, he won't even acknowledge the loss. I'm about 50% expecting Trump, should he lose, to spent the next four years at "the southern White House" Mar-a-Lago insisting that he's the real President, going on wild rants, and demanding the Republians do all the things he wants them to.

If that were to occur, I have no doubt he'd try to run again in 2024. "The Democrats STOLE a Presidency from me in a RIGGED election, and we're going to get it back!"

Had he lost 2016, he probably would have whined about it for a while and then gone ahead and made his Trump TV show and shit. But now Trump envisions himself as President-for-Life. Once his time in office is up, he's more likely to shift to being a political agitator than to drop out of politics completely. Those kinds of people don't just go away.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 19th 2019 at 3:48:58 AM

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#290509: Sep 19th 2019 at 2:48:06 PM

[up] that’s why I worry about his final 90 days in office.

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#290510: Sep 19th 2019 at 2:51:50 PM

Then he will disgrace Trumpism even faster, thus hurting the Republican Party.

It's a win-win.

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#290511: Sep 19th 2019 at 2:53:43 PM

I think an overwhelming defeat like the poll's suggesting would crush the spirit of anyone else in Trump's shoes,especially at their first term!I think Trump will accept defeat if it happens,until years later when he writes book complaining how he was betrayed and it becomes a best seller

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#290512: Sep 19th 2019 at 2:55:22 PM

that’s why I worry about his final 90 days in office.

I don't.

Trump attempting to do some kind of spite-sabotage because he lost requires Trump to acknowledge and accept that he lost. I'm not convinced he's capable of that, especially on an immediate timeframe.

Far more likely, Trump will spend his last 90 days demanding recounts, Tweeting conspiracy theories about fake voters with zero evidence, and trying to sue the states where he lost by the widest margins. "California loved Trump's campaign. There are actually a lot of Republicans there, but no Republicans ever win elections? RIGGED?"

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 19th 2019 at 3:57:20 AM

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#290513: Sep 19th 2019 at 3:28:30 PM

Not sabotage as much as burning every bridge he possibly can. We haven’t seen him as that level of tantrum mode yet.

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#290514: Sep 19th 2019 at 3:30:52 PM

I'm more afraid of what he'll convince his cult of doing before he's forced out of the POTUS seat.

I can imagine a lot of riots after a Democratic win, whoever the candidate.

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#290515: Sep 19th 2019 at 3:32:19 PM

[up][up] Except Trump doesn’t really care about destroying US credibility, he only cares about Trump. Unless burning bridges is going to make him look better, he won’t do it.

They should have sent a poet.
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#290516: Sep 19th 2019 at 3:49:49 PM

And remember, Trump sucks at working with bureaucracy. The amount of additional damage he can do with a tantrum will be superficial because he doesn't know how to pull it off.

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#290517: Sep 19th 2019 at 3:57:39 PM

> I can imagine a lot of riots after a Democratic win

I can picture plenty of celebrations but not really any riots

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#290518: Sep 19th 2019 at 4:01:32 PM

I mean from the alt-right lads.

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#290519: Sep 19th 2019 at 4:10:59 PM

I don't see riots if Trump loses. Though, to be fair, that's in part because I see terrorism being a more likely problem.

Though, truth be told, I don't see Trump intentionally directly encouraging said attacks. Doing so isn't really in his interests and probably not actually what he wants. I think he'll rile some people up by claiming his opponent is totally evil and that the system was rigged against him, but I don't think encouraging terrorism will be his goal outright.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#290520: Sep 19th 2019 at 4:42:14 PM

If Trump loses in 2020, you can bet your ass that he'll get the same treatment that John Bolton is currently receiving: That of being re-envisioned as secretly having been a leftist all along.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#290521: Sep 19th 2019 at 5:19:37 PM

Rex Tillerson, Trump's less-horrible-than-Pompeo Secretary of State, said that Netenyahu skillfully "played" US President Donald Trump by plying him with inaccurate information..

Tillerson goes on to say they'd have to take Trump aside later and explain how Netenyahu would be lying to him.

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#290523: Sep 19th 2019 at 5:46:05 PM

If he loses he'll never concede. It'll come down to how much of the military and police he claims are with him will actually back him.

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#290524: Sep 19th 2019 at 5:50:31 PM

He'll never concede, but he's also not going to pull a coup. He'll just go back to Mar-a-Lago and constantly bray about how he's the President people really wanted, but the (((Democrats))) stole the people's votes from them.

It's been fun.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#290525: Sep 19th 2019 at 5:56:06 PM

https://twitter.com/i/events/1174808776097984512

The AR-15 is no longer going to be produced for civilians. The manufactures claim it's due to lack of demand and I believe them. Basically, to quote Dawn of the Dead, the only people who could miss with these guns are the people who could afford them.

Still a victory of sorts.

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