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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I mean, the last time we talked about secession it was considered treason, and also our economies and infrastructure weren't nearly as intertwined with each other. For instance; two of our power networks cross like half the country each. The only state that's got its own grid is Texas. And this isn't getting to things like water rights which also cross state lines in the case of Nevada and California at least.
If Trump wins re-election, impeachment is even more off the table than it already is. For two reasons.
1 - Voters who turn out for Trump are also going to turn out downticket. In a "Trump wins re-election" scenario, we are extremely unlikely to win the Senate and we might not hold the House. It's more likely to be 2016 all over again than for us to somehow take both chambers of Congress despite him keeping the Presidency.
2 - If Trump wins re-election, then it pretty much validates everything impeachable about him. His crimes, his lack of fitness for office, his ignorance and egotism and malice, etc. If he wins re-election, then the people of the U.S. have spoken and majority-ruled that all of that shit is 100% acceptable conduct for our POTUS. The argument for impeachment pretty much collapses at that point.
I cannot stress this enough: vote. Everyone vote. There is no escape hatch. There is no parachute. If Trump wins 2020, this is our country for the next four years, possibly beyond. The damage at that point may well be irreparable.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 14th 2019 at 6:47:58 AM
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Indeed, secession isn't any less idiotic wankery just because left-ish people are talking about it instead of right-wingers.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 14th 2019 at 6:01:08 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang![]()
I mean, I hate him too, but I see no need to be an ideological puritan about it.
Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Sep 14th 2019 at 1:54:38 PM
Oh God! Natural light!
I meant more with what Charles said. I'd rather not have him depicted in dramas that try to wring out as much tension as possible; he'd enjoy those too much. Comedies that are relentless in their takedowns of him are the only depictions I'd like to see of him outside of historical documentaries and the like.
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I understand, but at the same time, I'm not sure I really care what he thinks. Besides, it's not like he'll be alive forever.
If it’s pre-primary or mid-primary (so pre-convention) you’d see it go the way of Kennedy’s death, where the VP becomes president and gets a huge popularity boost and promises to continue the legacy of the now dead president. The VP would easily become the presidential nominee at the convention and would pick a running mate.
Post-convention, I think they’d formally stay on the ballot, now at that point you could either announce a new VP and then have the electoral college make the previous VP the president and the new VP VP when they vote, or you could have the previously VP become president at inauguration and then nominate a new VP via the senate.
The West Wing did a bit on it with the death of a vice presidential candidate, it’s probably go kinda similar to that, but it is unchartaer waters.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranBecause people with Trump's approval ratings are unlikely to win reelection, said ratings have been amazingly stable over a long time and there is little reason to expect that they will improve.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanIt’s not that unlikely, current trends indicate it’s unlikely, but there will always be a serious possibility of him winning simply because he’s the Republican candidate.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran

Recently an oil complex in Saudi Arabia has been drone striked by Yemeni Houthis
The attack reduced oil production by 50%, not just for the complex but for the whole country.
So that's a problem. If any of y'all have cars that aren't filled I'd recommend filling them. It will interesting (in the apocryphal Chinese sense) to see the effects
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang