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#289901: Sep 12th 2019 at 6:29:20 PM

I don't doubt that, but the "only" part seems ill-advised, at least.

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#289902: Sep 12th 2019 at 6:30:18 PM

The main problem is that as far as we're aware, there aren't specific numbers for how many families were separated during the Obama administration. We know how many apprehended adults were referred for prosecution, but not how many children could have possibly been separated. The Obama administration, from what I've read, tried to keep families together as much as possible, although the DHS secretary during Obama admitted that there may have been some instances, but not because that was what they were supposed to do. Equating Trump's zero-tolerance policy with the detention that the Obama administration practiced, however, is disingenuous and entirely misleading. Jeff Sessions himself admitted that separating children from their families was what they wanted to do under Trump's zero-tolerance policy.

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#289903: Sep 12th 2019 at 6:31:00 PM

I don't doubt that, but the "only" part seems ill-advised, at least.

Hmm, yeah I see what you mean.

Fair enough.

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#289904: Sep 12th 2019 at 6:31:21 PM

[up][up] Alright, fair enough.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Sep 12th 2019 at 9:31:36 AM

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#289905: Sep 12th 2019 at 6:38:18 PM

...who was it that said Harris was acting Williamson-y tonight?

Seriously, Bernie, clear your throat or something.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Sep 12th 2019 at 9:39:00 AM

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#289906: Sep 12th 2019 at 6:39:27 PM

I did, though I also saw it on Five Thirty Eight.

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#289907: Sep 12th 2019 at 6:56:53 PM

Sanders made a point that he's the only one onstage to vote against all three of Trump's military budget, which includes - as Sanders supporters on Twitter have been very keen to point out - Warren.

While not a dealbreaker for me, I would like to see a definitive answer for that.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Sep 12th 2019 at 10:17:49 AM

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TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#289908: Sep 12th 2019 at 7:15:54 PM

I've seen her answer that on a different occasion. Kinda dodged it with references to bipartisanship.

I wonder what Bernie's schedule has been lately. Sounds like he's run himself hoarse.

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#289909: Sep 12th 2019 at 7:19:46 PM

[up] That's a good point, and might explain why he's been relatively quiet tonight. He's really only spoken when he's had to.

Also, props to Castro for calling out charter schools, however briefly.

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#289910: Sep 12th 2019 at 7:27:04 PM

Does anyone understand what these protestors are shouting?

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#289911: Sep 12th 2019 at 7:27:24 PM

I don't.

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#289913: Sep 12th 2019 at 7:28:13 PM

Previous debates have had hecklers too, they weren't particularly understandable back then either.

Just aggravating and obnoxious.

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#289914: Sep 12th 2019 at 7:29:17 PM

I don't understand what they were trying to accomplish here.

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#289915: Sep 12th 2019 at 7:33:45 PM

Getting attention, most likely.

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#289916: Sep 12th 2019 at 7:33:49 PM

[up][up]Sensible people don't tend to be the type of "activists" to interrupt Presidential debates tongue

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 12th 2019 at 7:34:07 AM

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#289917: Sep 12th 2019 at 7:40:42 PM

Joke's on Yang, Booker also had a debate first - mentioning March of the Penguins.

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#289918: Sep 12th 2019 at 7:47:58 PM

All over. That went better than the past one I think.

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#289919: Sep 12th 2019 at 7:52:21 PM

Apparently, the protesters were chanting about DACA and saying that their lives were at risk.

Hard for me to merely call them attention-grabbing when it was about something like that, though considering how hard it was to hear them, I don't suppose that it was most well-planned protest.

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#289920: Sep 12th 2019 at 8:00:07 PM

[up]Meh, I'll save my sympathy for the people who aren't obnoxious idiots. Heckling a Primary debate will never not be annoying.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 12th 2019 at 8:00:22 AM

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#289921: Sep 12th 2019 at 8:02:05 PM

Well, when your life is on the line, I can understand not particularly caring about civility.

Actually, I would argue that they were more considerate than they could have been, having waited until the policy discussions were over.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Sep 12th 2019 at 11:03:23 AM

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#289922: Sep 12th 2019 at 8:08:41 PM

I'd argue that their lives being at risk would outweigh the annoyance of them heckling a debate. Like, seriously.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#289923: Sep 12th 2019 at 8:20:24 PM

I disagree, they accomplished nothing. They didn't bring up DACA's profile or support, they just behaved like obnoxious children.

They did nothing to advance the cause of DACA, just because they have legitimate reasons to fear does justify every action.

Especially when literally every Democratic candidate supports DACA.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 12th 2019 at 8:20:44 AM

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#289924: Sep 12th 2019 at 8:21:33 PM

Regardless, it doesn't help anything if no one can even make out what you're saying.

Like, they could've at least waited until it ended and tried to get on camera afterward.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Sep 12th 2019 at 11:22:58 AM

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#289925: Sep 12th 2019 at 8:27:47 PM

It does seem odd to protest and yell at people who are already on your side.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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