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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Bishop
He also channeled Trump during last night's rally
, which in itself is enough reason to despise the guy.
Do you seriously think costing companies millions isn't going to affect the American people? Are you kidding me? That's not how this works, it's not how this has ever worked.
When companies face costs they pass those costs onto their consumers. So if you deprive companies of the market which allows them to sell their product cheaply they'll merely raise the prices. Which hurts the general public.
Maybe just maybe if you're missing fundamental economic realities like this then your support for Trump's trade war should be reconsidered mistaken and misguided?
Companies work with China because of their massive labor market, even if decoupling from that is possible (and that is no certain thing, China's economy is very large) that doesn't mean that it's optimal. Making our consumer goods more expensive and hurting businesses when China applies counter-tariffs (for example, Farmers are barely staying afloat with Federal subsidies) has a very real human cost.
Economically trade benefits both of us, cutting it off because China has some problematic policies is the height of idiocy.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 10th 2019 at 8:28:09 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Oh, is that the old "China EVUL" argument rearing up? It's kind of shameful how many otherwise rational people will pull it out to justify self-destructive trade policies.
China is an ugly regime with a lot of terrible practices and some human rights violations thrown in for good measure.
We are economically tied to them in a way that would take decades to untangle, as they are to us, and the effects of a trade war is potentially crippling to both nations.
These two statements are both true.
Also, on the "human rights violations" count, we've got a bit of a glass house of our own. That's not a good thing, nor is it a defense of China's violations. Just saying, that economic tangle wasn't exactly built on a foundation of goodwill towards man.
The hardest part about seeking to improve our country is figuring out how to build a stable and decent society on top of the foundation of blood and skulls that our predecessors left for us. And, also important, how to do it without causing the whole thing to come crashing down like a Jenga tower.
The Jenga tower option might sound cathartically good to people disillusioned with the horrors of our past, but that really just takes us back to Square One: Harvesting Blood and Skulls. Nobody benefits from a Jenga Tower collapse.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 10th 2019 at 9:29:16 AM
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Sure, I don't think anyone disputes that they're both true. Just that China hurting people does not justify hurting more people by starting a trade war.
After all, if one wants to put pressure on China then instead of supporting Trump's idiotic trade war they can look to a candidate who is both skeptical of China and not an idiot, i.e Warren. I'm sure she'd employ much more efficacious, and non-self harming, tools to attack China
But yes, I entirely agree with your message.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 10th 2019 at 8:29:52 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangIf Trump really wanted to hurt China, then he should have jointed the TPP. It literally was made to counter China
Watch me destroying my countryI really don't get any argument against the TPP. Thought mainly because I'm personally invested on it because my country is one of the "lesser members".
Seriously, if USA was on it, a lot of It's issues would be lessened. The current TPP is the Plan B due to USA refusing
Edited by KazuyaProta on Sep 10th 2019 at 10:40:08 AM
Watch me destroying my countryWhat I remember of the TPP's problems was:
- Liberticide laws regarding copyright (obligation to censor sites and block access to foreign infringing websites, like in SOPA/PIPA). In fact, news about that part was how I learned TPP existed in the first place.
- Problems about pharmacy, hampering genericization of lifesaving medicine
- Allowing corporations to sue states, which, in early drafts, included allowing Tobacco corporations to sue states for anti-Tobacco campaigns.
People opposing TPP on the Dem side weren't "anti free trade", they were anti-"free trade agreements" that included such stuff.
People opposing TPP on the Republican side however...
Edited by Medinoc on Sep 10th 2019 at 6:05:45 PM
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Another problem IIRC, was that industry reps were allowed to see the drafting stages but neither the general public nor organized labor was able to see it. Which is probably why the rest of those issues existed.
Wait until you see the psychotic maniac and/or incompetent who he replaces Bolton with before you say things like that, cause "Trump fires somebody bad, replaces them with someone WORSE" has been the background refrain of this administration.
Edited by Reflextion on Sep 10th 2019 at 12:19:15 PM
Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.No? I just said that I'm glad he fired the psychotic maniac, not that there won't be any bad person in the spot.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang...hold on, let me cut off the first five words of that real quick, to make it a description instead of reaction.
This. This, right here. This is how the headlines should describe what just happened.
But they won't.
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So, today is the NC special election. I reaaaaaally hope Dan Bishop crashes and burns.