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#289576: Sep 8th 2019 at 11:50:00 AM

Next years "Wall Chants" are going to be pretty interesting from the looks of it...

"Who paid for the wall!?"

"US!!"

That said, this money-grabbing has to be illegal in more ways than one...

I'm actually anticipating that as a pro-Trump chant.

I 100% expect around mid-2020 for Trump to announce that he has a plan to make Mexico pay us back for the funds used to build the wall, as well as further funds for more wall construction.

"I have a plan," he'll say. "And if we're still here in 2021, then you'll hear my plan. But if [Democrat Primary Winner] is sitting there in the Oval Office, then they'll just make us pay for the wall. So if you want Mexico to pay for the wall, I guess you better turn out for Trump."

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#289577: Sep 8th 2019 at 12:58:15 PM

So CBS has some aggregate polling results that have some interesting information. According to them, Biden isn't really losing any ground, but Warren is making important gains from people who switched to her when their preferred candidates either dropped out or lost steam. In addition nearly half (47%) of people who don't have her as their first choice are considering her meaning she might have room to win them over. Finally, her perceived electability among voters has also risen noticeably since June, from 39% to 55%.

So assuming all of this is accurate, it looks like the endgame to this primary is a close contest between Biden and Warren. It could be close but it doesn't seem altogether implausible that Warren could edge out a win although I wouldn't be surprised if Biden won in the end. Sanders is still in third place but he doesn't really have a lot of momentum right now so I don't think he will be able to beat Warren.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Sep 8th 2019 at 4:00:06 AM

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#289578: Sep 8th 2019 at 1:04:35 PM

Going back to the Republican running against Trump, the only way they could threaten him is if they were exactly the same as him in every possible way,practically Trump 1.2,it would take a Trump to trump Trump

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#289579: Sep 8th 2019 at 1:08:28 PM

[up][up]IIRC Five Thirty Eight, or someone, pointed out that it's possible for Biden to keep all of his current support and still lose. With that in mind, this news is very encouraging. Hopefully, Warren can keep up her growth and eventually beat Biden.

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#289580: Sep 8th 2019 at 1:13:47 PM

Yeah as much as Biden is leading he currently is only sitting in the high twenties/low thirties, that’s pretty good in a huge field, but in a 2-3 person field that’s not particularly good.

The way windowing goes will matter a lot, a big thing could easily be if Warren and Biden are both sitting in the high 30s/low 40s if Bernie would drop out and out his support behind Warren, because that’s probably her best way to win, become the clear second choice then have Bernie push her over the top.

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#289581: Sep 8th 2019 at 2:05:31 PM

JPMorgan has made an index to quantify how much Trump's tweets are influencing the volatility in the bond market. The name of the index? The Volfefe index.

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#289583: Sep 8th 2019 at 8:36:00 PM

Volfefe is golden. We need more funny neologisms that use Trump's own incoherencies to mock him.

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#289584: Sep 8th 2019 at 8:41:23 PM

As amusing as "volfefe" is, it's still an indicator of just how fucked up things are. This is more proof that maybe a person as public as the POTUS shouldn't be making public statements without some kind of filter.

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#289586: Sep 8th 2019 at 9:03:31 PM

[up] Incoming tweet about how the Air Force is the worst branch of the Military.

Also, the corruption might help scare regular Military Men away from Trump come 2020.

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#289587: Sep 8th 2019 at 9:03:59 PM

This sort of thing is why it's super easy for Trump to keep his campaign promise to refuse to take any salary as POTUS.

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#289588: Sep 8th 2019 at 10:43:02 PM

I'm betting a cookie if he leaves office he'll file a invoice for back pay anyway

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#289589: Sep 8th 2019 at 10:49:33 PM

Technically, he does still get the money. He just donates it to government institutions.

Politifact's take

This is the only donation he made that I think might have actually been genuinely in good faith (for Trump at least)

Trump donated his third quarter salary for 2018 to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism. Trump's older brother Fred Jr. died after struggling from alcoholism in 1981.

I've mentioned before that his commitment to being a teetotaller is perhaps the only trait of Trump I can actually kind of respect.

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#289590: Sep 9th 2019 at 2:08:27 AM

Yeah, his continuing reaction to his brother's death - his own stance on taking such substances and his continuous support of charities that tackle those issues - are one of the very few humanising things about him. Certainly the only one I can think of right now.

Although, "billionaire doesn't do anything about a problem until it affects them" isn't such a likeable angle when you think about it that way. It's like when people pointed out the late Koch Brother donated a lot of money to cancer charities ... because he had survived cancer himself.

Edited by GoldenKaos on Sep 9th 2019 at 10:10:04 AM

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#289591: Sep 9th 2019 at 4:52:57 AM

On Volfefe, I'm sort of surprised that there hasn't been a song made from putting bits and pieces of Trump's tweets together.

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#289592: Sep 9th 2019 at 5:49:00 AM

[up]x2 Sometimes it takes a problem hitting you full on the face for you to notice how bad it actually is.

It's true for everyone, not just billionares.

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#289593: Sep 9th 2019 at 6:01:50 AM

> I've mentioned before that his commitment to being a teetotaller is perhaps the only trait of Trump I can actually kind of respect.

It's admirable if true,my cynical side says he presents himself as a teetotaller but the reality is that he's anything but,when your a dude who does runs on the platform of projection it's hard to tell what's true and what's real

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#289594: Sep 9th 2019 at 6:09:05 AM

By all accounts it does seem to be true.

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#289595: Sep 9th 2019 at 6:16:39 AM

if a man who is nothing but lies and deception tries to tell the truth,should you believe him?Should anyone?

The answer no,the man who is nothing but lies can not be trusted with the truth because it will only turn into a lie.

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#289596: Sep 9th 2019 at 6:24:07 AM

Trump's drink of choice is apparently Diet Coke.

He even has a red button on his desk for it.

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#289598: Sep 9th 2019 at 7:30:45 AM

I drink Coke Zero. I chose wisely.

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#289599: Sep 9th 2019 at 7:34:29 AM

Sprite is the nectar of the Gods.

Also, diet drinks suck.

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#289600: Sep 9th 2019 at 7:34:37 AM

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/9/5/20849020/alaska-permanent-fund-universal-basic-income

Here's a description of how UBI might work with Alaska's fund.

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