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#289526: Sep 6th 2019 at 5:07:26 PM

oi,no tempting fate

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#289527: Sep 6th 2019 at 5:27:25 PM

I’d expect that should Trump go off the deep end, it’ll be when it’s announced that he’ll be needing to leave office. He’ll absolutely incite his followers to do something to keep him in power, especially if it’s directly due to an election.

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#289528: Sep 6th 2019 at 7:26:47 PM

I can already hear him declaring victory first thing in the morning of the election and, if and when the lead of the Democratic candidate slowly gets larger, getting more and more incoherent with his rapid-fire, rage-fueled tweets.

Edited by ITNW1989 on Sep 6th 2019 at 7:27:03 AM

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#289529: Sep 6th 2019 at 7:51:46 PM

Should he go off the deep end? He’s so incapable of admitting fault that he drew on a weather forecast map, lied about it for days, and has now bullied an agency into lying about it for him while meteorologists protest in outrage. 2+2=5, he says, only he can be trusted.

Edited by wisewillow on Sep 6th 2019 at 7:52:20 AM

ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#289530: Sep 6th 2019 at 8:05:14 PM

Perhaps I should say, deeper?

The point is, as bad as things are now, no way will they not get worse when Trump finds out his time in office is drawing to a close.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#289531: Sep 6th 2019 at 9:11:27 PM

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2019/09/05/day-959/

    Day 959: The ultimate deal 
1/ The Pentagon will divert funding from military construction projects in 23 states, three territories, and 19 countries to pay for Trump's border wall. Among the projects being defunded to pay for Trump's border wall, include nine schools for military children on bases in the U.S. and abroad, a daycare center at Joint Base Andrews, Hurricane Maria recovery projects at military installations in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, construction projects in Europe designed to help allies deter Russia. In total, $3.6 billion will be taken from 127 projects to fund 11 border barrier projects in Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas. (New York Times / Washington Post / Reuters)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-pentagon-idUSKCN1VP2VY

📌 Day 957: The Trump administration will divert $3.6 billion this week from 127 military construction projects to build to build 175 miles of Trump's border wall. Trump declared a national emergency in February to draw funding from federal accounts to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. Defense Secretary Mark Esper said about half of the funding will come from military construction projects outside the United States and half will come from projects within the country. (Politico / Washington Post)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/03/trump-administration-prepares-to-raid-military-projects-for-border-wall-1479981

2/ A federal judge ruled that 11 parents who were deported from the U.S. without their children will be allowed to return to the country. San Diego District Court Judge Dana Sabraw ruled that the Trump administration illegally prevented the parents from pursuing their asylum cases. In some cases, the judge found that agents coerced the parents into dropping their claims and accepting deportation by having them sign documents they didn't understand or lying and telling the parents that the asylum laws had changed. Sabraw refused to allow seven other parents listed in the original request to return to the U.S. (The Hill)

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/460034-federal-judge-says-11-parents-separated-from-children-can-return-to

3/ A district court judge in Virginia ruled that the federal government's database of "known or suspected terrorists" violates the rights of American citizens who are on the watchlist. Judge Anthony Trenga said "the currently existing procedural safeguards are not sufficient" to address the risk of incorrectly depriving U.S. citizens of their freedom to travel or protect their reputation. The database is a major tool of the FBI and Department of Homeland Security, and the ruling calls the constitutionality of the watchlist into question. As of 2017, roughly 2.1 million people were on the watchlist. (New York Times)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/us/politics/terrorism-watchlist-constitution.html

4/ The U.S. and China will resume trade talks aimed at ending the trade war. Chinese Vice Premier Liu He agreed to visit Washington in "early October" with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer. Stocks rose following the news that talks would resume. (Bloomberg / Wall Street Journal / Washington Post / New York Times)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/china-us-to-resume-trade-talks-in-washington-in-october/2019/09/05/77aef236-cf82-11e9-9031-519885a08a86_story.html

5/ Trump's Middle East peace negotiator will leave the administration. Jason Greenblatt didn't say when his resignation would take effect, but the departure leaves the Israel-Palestinian peace effort – team led by Jared Kushner – without its chief architect. Trump has called it the "ultimate deal," but the plan has been repeatedly delayed with Palestinian leaders rejecting it sight unseen. Trump officials, however, claimed that "The vision is now complete and will be released when appropriate," but that the plan will not be released before Israel's Sept. 17 election. (Washington Post / New York Times / Bloomberg)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-lead-middle-east-negotiator-stepping-down--peace-plan-still-under-wraps/2019/09/05/7913a21e-cfe8-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2019/09/06/day-960/

    Day 960: Looking for acknowledgment 
1/ The Trump administration is considering a drastic reduction in refugee admissions for next year. One plan would zero out the refugee program altogether, while another would cut refugee admissions by half or more, to 10,000 to 15,000 people. Senior officials plan to discuss what Trump should set the refugee admissions at for the coming year in a meeting next week. (New York Times)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/06/us/politics/trump-refugees-united-states.html

📌 Day 911: The Trump administration is considering admitting zero refugees next year. The idea was floated during a recent meeting with officials from the Department of Homeland Security, State Department, and the Pentagon. Homeland Security officials at the meeting suggested making the level anywhere from 3,000 to 10,000. The Trump administration cut refugee admissions from 110,000 in fiscal year 2017 to 30,000 in 2018. (Politico / CNN)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/18/trump-officials-refugee-zero-1603503

📌 Day 944: The Trump administration is considering a plan to allow states and cities the ability to deny entry to refugees approved for resettlement in the United States. According to the draft order, "the federal government will resettle refugees only where both the relevant state and local governments have consented to participate" in the program. If a jurisdiction does not agree, the federal government will find another location. Trump, meanwhile, is debating whether to decrease refugee admissions starting on Oct. 1. In fiscal year 2016, the limit was 85,000 refugees; in fiscal year 2019, the number was 30,000. (NBC News)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-admin-weighs-letting-states-cities-deny-entry-refugees-approved-n1044801

2/ Four states are planning to cancel their Republican presidential primaries and caucuses. Republican parties in South Carolina, Nevada, Arizona, and Kansas are expected to complete the cancellation of their primaries at meetings this weekend. It is not unprecedented for state Republicans or Democrats to decide not to hold a presidential primary when an incumbent is running uncontested to save party money at the state level. Trump's challengers, however, say the moves are undemocratic and represent the latest illustration of Trump's takeover of the entire Republican Party. (Politico / CNN)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/republicans-cancel-primaries-trump-challengers-1483126

3/ Trump called a Fox News correspondent to the Oval Office to insist that he wasn't wrong when he claimed Hurricane Dorian could have hit Alabama. "He stressed to me that forecasts for Dorian last week had Alabama in the warning cone," said Fox News senior White House correspondent John Roberts. "He insisted that it is unfair to say Alabama was never threatened by the storm" and suggested that Trump was "just looking for acknowledgment that he was not wrong for saying that at some point" about Alabama being at risk. Trump later complained on Twitter that the media has not apologized to him for "four days of corrupt reporting" about his false claim that Alabama was among a handful of states that "will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated." Trump attempted to prove that his original claims about Alabama were accurate this week by showing a doctored and outdated hurricane map that had been altered with a black Sharpie to include Alabama in the storm's track forecast cone. (CNN / Politico / Washington Post)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/trump-hurricane-dorian-tweets-1483586

A White House official said Trump was the one who drew on a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration map with a sharpie to make it look like Dorian was poised to strike Alabama. "No one else writes like that on a map with a black Sharpie," said the official. (Washington Post / Politico / Talking Points Memo)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/05/hurricane-dorian-sharpie-trump-1482839

4/ The Justice Department opened an antitrust investigation into four automakers who rejected the Trump administration's relaxed air pollution and mileage regulations. Ford Motor Company, Volkswagen of America, Honda, and BMW instead struck a deal with California to reduce automobile emissions. Automakers have urged the administration not to drastically roll back Obama-era emissions levels, arguing that one national standard would be better than one weaker standard for most of the country and one tougher standard for California, plus the 13 other states that follow California's lead. Those 14 states account for about 40% of the U.S. population. The Justice Department is investigating whether the deal could potentially limit consumer choice. (New York Times / Bloomberg / CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/06/business/automakers-antitrust-investigation/index.html

5/ The U.S. added 130,000 jobs in August – about 25,000 of which were temporary 2020 Census workers – signaling a slowdown in the pace of job growth. Economists had predicted 160,000 job gains in August. Job gains for the two previous months were also revised downward by 20,000. The unemployment rate remained at 3.7%. (Washington Post / Los Angeles Times / NPR / New York Times / Associated Press / CNBC)

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/06/758066667/tepid-u-s-jobs-report-adds-to-economic-jitters

6/ Congressional investigators identified possible failures in Deutsche Bank AG's money laundering controls in its dealings with Russian oligarchs. Investigators discovered the potential failures after going through a series of transactions, emails, and other documents turned over to Congress by the bank. The inquiry found instances where bank staff flagged concerns about new Russian clients and transactions but were ignored by managers. Congress is also looking into whether the bank allowed entities to funnel illegal funds into the United States as a correspondent bank by processing transactions for others. (Reuters / The Hill)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-deutschebank-investigation-russia-exc-idUSKCN1VR0PX

Voltron64 Since: Jul, 2016
#289532: Sep 6th 2019 at 9:27:41 PM
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#289533: Sep 6th 2019 at 10:42:22 PM

Please don't post about the satisfaction you get at the idea of a group of people getting shot to death.

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#289534: Sep 6th 2019 at 11:45:26 PM

Next years "Wall Chants" are going to be pretty interesting from the looks of it...

"Who paid for the wall!?"

"US!!"

That said, this money-grabbing has to be illegal in more ways than one...

Edited by TitanJump on Sep 6th 2019 at 8:46:05 PM

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#289535: Sep 6th 2019 at 11:51:24 PM

I thought that Mexico was supposed to pay for the wall.

Do not obey in advance.
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#289537: Sep 7th 2019 at 12:15:37 AM

Trump once suggested that Hillary should be assassinated if she won, how he’d react to a loss is very up in the air.

The main restraining factor is that the executive people around him aren’t going to actually give their lives for his madness, so no last minute war or nuclear launch, no secret service assassination, etc... It’s just what he can talk rando supporters into doing, a lot of whom are all talk and no action.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#289538: Sep 7th 2019 at 12:30:07 AM

Joe Manchin Will Stay in the Senate Because He Could Become Its Most Powerful Member. This guy's hoping that he can become Senate kingmaker.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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#289539: Sep 7th 2019 at 3:26:33 AM

Pompeo Decries Proliferation of ‘Human Rights’ Claims in Speech

Also he might have made veiled references to wanting to bring back slavery.

"Politicians have “from time to time have framed pet causes as fights for rights to bypass the normal process by which political ends are achieved,” Pompeo said Friday at Kansas State University. “This is an imperfect analogy, but the thirteenth ice cream cone isn’t as good as the first one was. And with respect to unalienable rights, more, per se, is not always better.”

Edited by Deadbeatloser22 on Sep 7th 2019 at 11:26:45 AM

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Boston Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#289540: Sep 7th 2019 at 4:53:19 AM

Thirteenth ice cream cone, or thirteenth amendment? That's some pretty unsubtle dog whistle ya got, Pompeo.

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#289541: Sep 7th 2019 at 6:33:08 AM

Also, slavery never really went away in the US due to the prison system.

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#289542: Sep 7th 2019 at 7:14:57 AM

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association sent out an unsigned statement on Friday endorsing Trump's comments on Hurricane Dorian making impacts on Alabama, while rebuking a tweet made by the Birmingham, Alabama National Weather Service office.

It should be pointed out that some models late last week had pushed Dorian out into the Gulf of Mexico, but by the time Trump put out his tweet on Sunday, most models were in agreement that the closest Dorian would have gotten to Alabama were if it went up Florida.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#289543: Sep 7th 2019 at 7:16:11 AM

I'm with the union who represents the workers in that case, NOAA's actions were disgusting and cowardly. Tossing their people under the bus just to appease Trump.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Sep 7th 2019 at 11:17:26 AM

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#289544: Sep 7th 2019 at 8:14:52 AM

LOL I love this very recent Wikipedia edit to the lead section of NOAA's article.

On September 6, 2019, the NOAA showed that it favors partisan politics over science and technology, issuing the statement “The Birmingham National Weather Service’s Sunday morning tweet spoke in absolute terms that were inconsistent with probabilities from the best forecast products available at the time,” after the President incorrectly claimed that hurricane Dorian was likely to hit Alabama, even doctoring an NOAA weather map with a sharpie.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#289545: Sep 7th 2019 at 8:32:30 AM

It will be gone soon, I suspect, it does not belong into the lead section.

Plus, the problem with Trump's deed is less the fact that he's incorrectly stated that Alabama was at risknote  but that upon criticism responded by doctoring a hurricane warning mapnote  and ranting at the media. Then again, his credo is pretty much "I am never wrong and every problem is someone else's fault" so while disappointing it's also fairly predictable.

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 7th 2019 at 6:01:28 PM

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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#289546: Sep 7th 2019 at 8:49:53 AM

[up] Not to mention that it is illegal to alter any weather maps for any purpose whatsoever...

And he did it in front of the cameras...recorded proof.

What is the legal punishment for altering weather maps again?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#289547: Sep 7th 2019 at 8:52:15 AM

18 U.S. Code § 2074. False weather reports:

Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both.

(I don't know if the NHC is part of the Weather Bureau, though)

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 7th 2019 at 5:53:59 PM

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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#289548: Sep 7th 2019 at 9:10:00 AM

[up] Huh.

And the reason Trump hasn't been fined under his title and put in jail for ninety days in this very moment is...(I already know the answer, the question is rhetorical.)

The US really needs to make a clean-up of its laws to include the President of the United States as well...

Edited by TitanJump on Sep 7th 2019 at 6:11:15 PM

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#289549: Sep 7th 2019 at 9:56:07 AM

Let's not get over excited about this. Drawing on a weather map with a sharpie should not land anyone in jail, even Trump. If some random college kid did the same thing as Trump and posted it on Youtube, would you be up in arms to put them in jail?

Which isn't to say that Trump lying about things and then doubling and tripling down is in any way okay, it's just that I don't think "drew on a weather map" rises to the level of jailable offense for anyone, even the POTUS.

It's still a huge issue, though, jailable or not. Getting accurate information out to the people affected is one of the most important things a public official can do in a disaster situation. The fact that Trump gave out bad information means that other officials and agencies have to spend time and energy countering that false information. The fact that Trump not only refused to admit he was wrong also continued to spread the bad information compounds the issue exponentially.

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#289550: Sep 7th 2019 at 9:58:39 AM

The law disagrees with you. Apparently, drawing on a weather map and depicting your changes as accurate is absolutely a crime.


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