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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
As much as I enjoy sticking it to the NRA, I don't think that labelling them a terrorist organisation is accurate. Or helpful, for that matter. It will only make the second amendment crowd even more fearful of what will happen if democrats take the White House. I don't think we'll like them when they're genuinely scared.
Edited by Kayeka on Sep 4th 2019 at 10:15:12 AM
The alt-right is non-interventionist, jingoism is not necessary to be a Republican. Even if it has been common in the Republican Establishment.
I mean, they're not directly carrying out acts of terrorism, but at the very least they're as responsible as Saudi Arabia and other countries that sponsor terrorists.
The comparison still doesn't work, driving up gun sales is not terrorism.
Those countries you mentioned? They directly funded terrorist groups, unless the NRA has done that it's just irresponsible grandstanding to declare them domestic terrorists.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangThe NRA are enablers. Thatd pretty shitty on its own, but they are not the ones who organized these shootings.
Don't step down on their level and do rabble rousing, stick to the facts.
Edited by Forenperser on Sep 4th 2019 at 10:26:37 AM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianIf you label them terrorists they'd wear it like a badge of pride,what they are is an they're especially annoying pro gun advocacy group with racist ties,they're a hate group without the gumption to carry out or prepare an attack,they don't have an ideology to drive them their goals aside from promoting pro gun views
Edited by Ultimatum on Sep 4th 2019 at 8:28:54 AM
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverThe NRA is one of the most powerful lobbyists and backers for the GOP. It is, without exaggeration, a major reason why Bush and Trump were elected.
However
- Their television station was a complete money pit
- Embezzlement scandals and blackmail.
- They donated hundreds of millions of funds to Trump with no reward, unlike coal.
- A lot of the NRA's alarmism was about Obama and Hillary, which the casual donor didn't feel under Trump.
- The Russians literally donated 200 million dollars to keep it afloat and didn't renew that.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Sep 4th 2019 at 1:41:12 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.They have teeth and bark,but have they ever bitten someone?
Genuine Terrorists have teeth and they carry out attacks as lone wolves,they've attacked my country and the US on more then one repeatly,they are driven by an ideology to kill innocent people.The NRA would never commit similar attacks but they're the loudest voice to fight back with more guns
Edited by Ultimatum on Sep 4th 2019 at 8:44:43 AM
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverThis is both hilarious and pathetic: President Trump showed a doctored hurricane chart. Was it to cover up for ‘Alabama’ Twitter flub?
Well, at least he didn't bring any people in danger with this idiocy, unlike another instance
...
Opposing regulation that could stop gun violence or even terrorism doesn't make one a terrorist.
They aren't organizing them, but they are inciting them
.
Disclaimer: I don't actually know how reliable Vox is as a media reporting outlet, but it has a video of the ad in question where the NRA all but calls for civil war against leftists. And I'd rather give the clicks to that than to the NRA's Twitter account, which is where I first saw this ad.
They aren't just opposing regulation; they are actively inciting violence.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Let’s put it this way, do you consider Islamic preachers who preach a violent ideology that leads people to terrorism (but do not themselves fund or order terrorist attacks) to be terrorists? Because that’s your comparison point, are the guys pushing Wahhabism terrorists?
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Creating a toxic atmosphere, for sure. But as long as they are not directly calling for violence, no, no terrorism. The line can get blurry at times, admittedly.
In Germany, we have one of these prominent cases, Pierre Vogel, who always manages to skirt the line.
Edited by Forenperser on Sep 4th 2019 at 11:14:19 AM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianThis is a few days old, but Bank of America has frozen or threaten to freeze the bank accounts of people while questioning the legality of immigrants living here and the citizenship of Americans and dual citizenship holders.
For anyone wondering, here’s the actual text of the resolution:
WHEREAS, The United States Constitution specifically delineates that the country was founded to establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, and promote the general welfare, and
WHEREAS, The United States Department of Justice defines terrorist activity, in part, as, “The use of any...explosive, firearm, or other weapon or dangerous device, with intent to endanger, directly or indirectly, the safety of one or more individuals or to cause substantial damage to property;” and
WHEREAS, The United States Department of Justice further includes any individual or member of an organization commits an act that the actor knows, or reasonably should know, affords material support, including communications, funds, weapons, or training to any individual has committed or plans to commit a terrorist act, and
WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association musters its considerable wealth and organizational strength to promote gun ownership and incite gun owners to acts of violence, and
WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association spreads propaganda that misinforms and aims to deceive the public about the dangers of gun violence, and
WHEREAS, The leadership of National Rifle Association promotes extremist positions, in defiance of the views of a majority of its membership and the public, and undermine the general welfare, and
WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association through its advocacy has armed those individuals who would and have committed acts of terrorism; and
WHEREAS, All countries have violent and hateful people, but only in America do we give them ready access to assault weapons and large-capacity magazines thanks, in large part, to the National Rifle Association’s influence; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED, That the City and County of San Francisco intends to declare the National Rifle Association a domestic terrorist organization
It seems like they’re accusing the NRA of providing material support to actual terrorists.
I’m not sure if advocacy rises to the level of material support, though.
Edited by archonspeaks on Sep 4th 2019 at 2:29:31 AM
They should have sent a poet.So it’s about how one defines material support.
If a terrorist was on the opposite side valley to a stash of guns and you kept the valley clear and traversable, are you providing material aid to the terrorist?
What level of ill intent is required? Do you have to want the terrorist to get the guns? Do you have to want the terrorist to get the guns because you want him to commit a terrorist attack?
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranJacob Wohl, conservative activist and failed political operative (the guy who tried to get Mueller nailed on a fake Me Too! thing, among other shit) has been charged by California prosecutors for illegally selling securities. He already has a record on this front.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Lock him up?
Susan Davis, Democratic congresswoman from San Diego, will not seek reelection in 2020.
She's won her district pretty comfortably over the years, so this looks like a safe seat to get some new blood. Best wishes, Rep. Davis.

I mean, they're not directly carrying out acts of terrorism, but at the very least they're as responsible as Saudi Arabia and other countries that sponsor terrorists.
Edited by danime91 on Sep 4th 2019 at 1:12:04 AM