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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
bitemytail Since: Dec, 2011
#288327: Aug 21st 2019 at 9:05:34 AM

[up] It looks like he's quoting someone calling him that.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#288328: Aug 21st 2019 at 9:10:15 AM

Pretty sure he's agreeing with that notion, self-obsessed prick that he is.

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singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#288329: Aug 21st 2019 at 9:38:43 AM

I didn't think I was implying any great strategic thought behind the Greenland story. My assumption was that this was a Trumpian flight of fancy that was never going to go anywhere. And if the press hadn't picked it up then it would have quietly died as Trump moved on to his next impulse.

But the press did pick it up. It forced a response from the White House, from Denmark and from Greenland itself. So now it's a thing and so Trump responds to it, and he can't look weak by backing down so up the ante we go until we have a full diplomatic row.

Perhaps I overplayed it with how it would play on news bulletins but this is a classic silly season story and would have been treated as such. I mean Maddow reported it as "Stop Pranking Donald Trump With Ideas About Buying Greenland" - a tone which doesn't exactly suggest a serious analysis of this subject. And Maddow is about as far from a Trump friendly outlet as you can get.

So no, I don't believe Trump has a masterplan. But nor do I believe a complex masterplan is required to get the news media to follow well worn tropes in reporting a story that is slightly off beat and whimsical.

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#288330: Aug 21st 2019 at 9:42:02 AM

How ironic - the Religious Right loves him for fulfilling their bigoted dreams, and extolls his virtues as a religious man, when he happily namedrops an office associated with the son of the devil in Biblical Apocalypse theology, and behaves the part of a cruel, malicious despot.

It's almost like the religious right is composed entirely of grifters who want you to pay them for the privilege of praying over you to heal your sicknesses.

To use a religious theme for this, they worship two gods; Amon and Mammon.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#288331: Aug 21st 2019 at 9:56:59 AM

I've said before that the GOP worships Mammon. Why do you think I suggested "Mammon Mitch"?

Edited by M84 on Aug 22nd 2019 at 12:57:17 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#288332: Aug 21st 2019 at 10:12:23 AM

Evil Turtle worships absolute power more than money, IMO; the latter is mainly a means to an end.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#288333: Aug 21st 2019 at 10:29:11 AM

It can only mean one thing: Trump is the Antichrist.

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#288334: Aug 21st 2019 at 10:36:38 AM

I have proposed (in a not ‘’entirely’’) serious way, that he could be the false profit, and Putin is the Antichrist. Or the other way around.

Leviticus 19:34
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#288335: Aug 21st 2019 at 10:37:39 AM

There's no need to involve superstitions, even jokingly, they're just reactionary leaders doing what reactionaries have done forever.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#288336: Aug 21st 2019 at 10:38:16 AM

Considering his refusal to release his tax returns and how he is always involved in fraud, he probably would be the "false profit".

RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#288337: Aug 21st 2019 at 10:45:24 AM

Would that be an insult to Noriega?

Edited by RainingMetal on Aug 21st 2019 at 10:45:36 AM

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#288338: Aug 21st 2019 at 10:57:34 AM

While we are on light stories, Wikipedia has selected Hillary's biography to be their main page article for today.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#288339: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:00:38 AM

And yesterday, to my knowledge.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#288340: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:02:37 AM

Next on the list: finally calling objectivism what it always has been... fascist apologia.

Now now, fascists believe in using the government to kill everyone. Objectivists believe in killing everyone through lack of government.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#288341: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:14:50 AM

At least 27 people have been arrested over threats to commit mass attacks since the El Paso and Dayton shootings

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/08/21/us/mass-shooting-threats-tuesday/index.html

Saw this initially on TV and looked for the article, which ends on a list of just about every arrest.

The TV report had a bit how at least a couple of the patterns seen were predominantly white males ranging from teenage to middle aged. Most of the threats were also posted on social media.

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 21st 2019 at 12:16:47 PM

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#288342: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:27:03 AM

It should be noted that Ayn Rand never said anything especially positive about fascism and also fascists have banned her works before.

Leviticus 19:34
Robrecht Your friendly neighbourhood Regent from The Netherlands Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Your friendly neighbourhood Regent
#288343: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:35:44 AM

[up] Why should that be noted? Also, which fascists banned Ayn Rand's work?

Angry gets shit done.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#288344: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:46:28 AM

Objectivism may not have been fascist but it was just as unjust and exploitative, just instead of a fascist vanguard benefiting industrialists, you would have the industrialists ruling directly.

(I realize no one has necessarily said otherwise, I just felt the need to point it out)

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#288345: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:47:10 AM

[up][up] Because someone said that Objetivism was fascist apologia when Rand actually was negative with fascism.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Aug 21st 2019 at 1:47:18 PM

Watch me destroying my country
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#288346: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:57:10 AM

Should be noted that Ayn Rand, hypocrite though she may be, did grow up in the Soviet Union. Authoritarian as they are, and fascist-like as they are, they were officially opposed to it and were invaded by the Nazis back in the day, so it would make sense that Rand would take an anti-Fascist position. Especially given that fascism while often used synecdotally for it is not equivalent with the extreme right as a whole. You could argue that objectivism vs fascism is the anarchists (and the anarcho-communists who aren't tankies) vs communists of the right.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#288347: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:05:58 PM

Now Trump is calling himself "The chosen one". This is appalling.

Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#288348: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:08:44 PM

It's pretty hard to believe in any kind of just god or gods when these people are walking around not getting hit by lightning bolts.

Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#288349: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:09:00 PM

[up]x2 Yeah, it's absolutely appalling. It certainly isn't going to get him any favors with the Jewish People of the United States (especially with regards to the whole "Second Coming" part). It might also make some Israeli's (who certainly wouldn't want a Christian King) get less friendly with Trump.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Aug 21st 2019 at 3:10:06 PM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#288350: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:12:48 PM

Yeah, it's absolutely appalling. It certainly isn't going to get him any favors with the Jewish People of the United States (especially with regards to the whole "Second Coming" part). It might also make some Israeli's (who certainly wouldn't want a Christian King) get less friendly with Trump.

Yeah, though that probably won't affect Trump very much.

Jewish-Americans mostly support the Democrats.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang

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