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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Re: Warren, my takeaway from 2016 is that scandal trumps substance, using the word "trump" in a very intentional way. Everything is going to be sensationalized and there will probably be no substantive front-page debates over policy at all. This will make it very hard for someone like Elizabeth Warren to get their message across.
Hillary Clinton ran into the identical problem. I kept hearing people ask why she didn't say anything about policy issues during the election, only she did. Over and over again, with lengthy speeches, town hall talks, white papers and detailed proposals for days all over her website. Everybody ignored them.
Edited by Fighteer on Aug 20th 2019 at 3:05:27 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Now I'm wondering, there any Biden supporter here? Like, someone who see him as their first choice?
Watch me destroying my country![]()
In the case of many, "Just get rid of Trump ASAP please, then use your time as president to have Dems ensuring that it can't come back"
Edited by KazuyaProta on Aug 20th 2019 at 2:07:24 PM
Watch me destroying my countryAnd how this infuriates me. Biden has more scandals in his long career than all the other Democratic candidates combined and doubled. If it becomes personality against personality, scandal against scandal, he's got serious problems.
Fortunately, I think this election is most likely to come down to the state of the economy and how bad Trump has been for it. If we can keep that at the forefront of the conversation, we've got it easy.
The last thing I want is another "Teflon" candidate who'll normalize the idea of a President who can get away with whatever he does (or has done).
Edited by Fighteer on Aug 20th 2019 at 3:08:29 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"![]()
He’s “safe” in the sense that, due to various reasons, the general public ignores his issues more than they would for any other candidate.
Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Aug 20th 2019 at 3:08:26 PM
My musician pageI don't think there are any Biden supporters here, I've never seen one.
Most are Pro-Warren. Some very few are Pro-Bernie (like me), and I think I've even seen the occasional Pro-Kamala people.
Other than that, I got nothing.
Oh yes, and pretty much everyone hates Williamson and Tulsi.
Edited by Forenperser on Aug 20th 2019 at 9:07:59 PM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianWarren is my first choice, followed by Sanders. Harris is only a teeny bit better than Biden, but not by much
Still, I am firmly #Anyone But Trump
People who say they are going to refuse to vote because "it shouldn't have to come down to the lesser of two evils" make me want to swallow a bee
The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.Yeah, making Election Day a federal holiday must be a priority, that it isn't is just weird.
Watch me destroying my countryClearly the solution is to bring the ballot box to them so save them the journey.
I've heard it often said they should make voting day a public holiday,it would give people a reason to vote,that it means poor people would choose to work for much needed pay is something I had not considered
Edited by Ultimatum on Aug 20th 2019 at 7:24:10 PM
have a listen and have a link to my discord server
That's such a strange idea that I'm legit tempted to try that.
Edited by KazuyaProta on Aug 20th 2019 at 2:23:31 PM
Watch me destroying my countryWeird idea that sort of only applies to the US - How about "opt-out" voting? In other words, if you are a registered member of a party and you do not deliberately vote, you are assumed to have voted straight ticket for your party.
From a European perspective it's odd that you can "register" as a Democrat or Republican - to have the two political parties so baked in to the fabric of everyday life in that way.
Obviously there are a tonne of practical problems with this idea - mostly do to with voter suppression and voter purges but those are problems that you have to deal with anyway. You wouldn't even have to match individual voters to check - just check how many people registered to a party physically voted and subtract that from the total number of registered voters belonging to that party.
As is the whole Two-Party thing, honestly. In Europe, there are a ton of parties.
It's really sad that the Green Party has pretty much no chance to ever win any seats in the US.
Edited by Forenperser on Aug 20th 2019 at 9:51:47 PM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianI've stated that I'm pro-Warren then pro-Sanders.
However, I believe Biden is going to win the nomination and it's not even going to be a contest. That may qualify as "support" as I'm of the mind he'll also clobber Trump in a pretty much humongous victory. All the while being a more or less empty suit.
I'm also willing to bet Beto O'Roarke will be his running mate for maximum white privilege.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 20th 2019 at 12:53:52 PM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.What is this fascination with having only one day for voting. Just have the polls be open from the weekend before the voting Tuesday. With a 4 day window, pretty much anyone who wants to vote should be able to get to vote.
That's how it works up in Canada. Even though votes are counted on Monday, you can vote the whole weekend before.
Edited by nightwyrm_zero on Aug 20th 2019 at 12:52:26 PM
> - How about "opt-out" voting? In other words, if you are a registered member of a party and you do not deliberately vote, you are assumed to have voted straight ticket for your party.
my immediate thought was to tell you that's undemocratic,voting means making a choice,an assumption of who you voted for is not honest,someone has fill out the form for it to be counted and that's about it
have a listen and have a link to my discord server![]()
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The rules of the system were configured by parties acting in bad faith. Saying any more on that matter would be redundant.
Though there are various opportunities for early voting throughout America, but various institutions work to make sure people don’t know about them.
Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Aug 20th 2019 at 3:57:22 PM
My musician pageI wouldn't call Biden inevitable (and this is coming from a relative moderate, as far as this forum goes). The man has a long history of flaming out in the latter stages of primary campaigns.
Now, he might have an advantage here to due a combination of factors (Obama nostalgia, perceived electablity, brand and name recognition), but he is far from unstoppable. Especially if major players start to drop out, we could see a shift in the balance of power.
And as for US third parties, in addition to the structural issues they face, they also tend to be outright garbage. The Greens for instance, are loaded with pro-Russia, anti-science quacks.
Edited by Rationalinsanity on Aug 20th 2019 at 5:14:52 AM
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

At the very least, Biden will be the Disc-One Final Dungeon boss for Warren.
Sanders will be the mini boss.
i'm tired, my friend