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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Even without Hickenlooper, Cory Gardner would be looking at a hard road to getting re-elected
. Of particular note is the fact that Generic Democrat beats him in the polls 38-46%.
Replace Generic Democrat with state political legend John Hickenlooper and he's basically just f*cked.
We voted in the midterms to just be a blue state going forward, no more of that purple shit. Which makes it a bad time to be a Republican in Colorado, and especially one that's backed Trump more often than not.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 15th 2019 at 12:59:03 PM
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Honestly I don't blame Bernie for calling out Corporate Media. They DO kill stories that say mean things about whatever company owns them so in all honesty they AREN'T particularly trustworthy. New York Times and Washington Post both put out good content but a lot of the criticism against Bernie is "how dare you point out that corporate media often lies its balls off." Another thing is that they posted 16 anti bernie stories in FIFTEEN hours. That implies a major hate boner on their part and Bernie has criticized Jeff Bezos a great deal. Saying that the corporate media DOES deliberately silence people who criticize certain companies and ignores certain shitty things those companies do.
Having 6 companies own 80% of the media is ALSO bad for democracy.
Edited by LordYAM on Aug 15th 2019 at 12:18:16 PM
To be perfectly honest, I DO think people on this thread are being too hard on Sanders often enough.
That's not to say he is perfect, but many times I get the impression that people think of him as an outright bad guy.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianI think it's a loss of faith in the Bernie brand for those who first supported him and a continuation of the opinion be was "all talk, little substance" for those who didn't at all, with a mix of prejudice-revealing gaffes not unlike Biden and the fact we have clear superior candidates in people like Warren.
People are very hard on basically all candidates here. If someone says anything slightly questionable, they get pounded on, though I agree Sanders gets it a bit more than the others. I didn't think this situation was problematic, just a mostly harmless joke.
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Please. The guy is not the messiah but reading a lot of the posts here you'd think he was Satan himself. The ugly truth is that most newspapers are owned by six companies or so and those guys DO shut down any stories that embarrass them, silence criticism or slander those who oppose them. In that regards no a lot of journalists really DON'T have a lot of integrity and Sanders is dead on for saying this. It's mean but if anything equating his claims that corporate media attacks those who go after corporations (True) with Trump's authoritarian assholery is kinda dishonest.
Sanders made VERY legit points about how Bezos treats his workers like crap and then papers owned by Bezos dog pile him with 16 stories over 15 hours? That's kinda shady; some of the journalists in the video Farron Cousins cites also took money from Bezos and Cousins also brought up a story about how a journalist spent months working on an article about how a drug caused medical problems (don't remember the exact details) but on the eve of printing they were forced to kill the story because a sponsor would have been embarrassed.
Just because Donald is throwing around nonsense about "fake news" doesn't mean the media shouldn't be called out.
Edited by LordYAM on Aug 15th 2019 at 1:23:29 AM
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Except, as the article mentions, it's not harmless because a significant amount of people do distrust the media and will take "jokes" like that seriously.
Like, if we're not gonna accept the "Just Joking" Justification whenever someone from the right does it (or when an Asian-American woman starts a Twitter hashtag disparaging white people, no I haven't forgotten), why is it suddenly acceptable when a Democratic presidential candidate uses it?
He also has a very spotty history with racial justice that no amount of "I mArChEd WiTh MlK" can get rid of. Maybe that's not very important to you but for me, a black person, I kinda don't want that in a candidate who calls himself progressive.
Edited by PhysicalStamina on Aug 15th 2019 at 4:31:22 AM
i'm tired, my friendI can't help but note that Sanders took aim at the Bezos-owned Washington Post (as noted, a favor Trump target) and not the New York Times, which is infamous for its anti-Hillary Clinton stories and for downplaying Russian interference.
Quite an interesting coincidence.
Something I've also been thinking about is that while I have really wanted to give Sanders the benefit of the doubt more, especially because he has made good statements criticizing Trump's white supremacist rhetoric and actions, I have noted that Sanders has David Sirota and Briahna Joy Gray in high campaign positions, and both of them utterly loathe liberals and have engaged in the kind of behavior associated with the "Bernie Bro" label. Not sure about Sirota, but I'm pretty sure in 2016 Gray announced she was Never Hillary and voting for Jill Stein.
And I can't find her name at the moment, but I saw something on my Twitter feed about another Sanders campaign hire who tweeted approval about Trump supporters' "Hillary for Prison" (and/or "Lock Her Up") signs.
And while it make sense that Sanders (and anyone else) would want to hire people who are committed supporters, these kind of hires make it hard for me to disassociate Sanders from the worst behavior of his supporters.
Edited by Hodor2 on Aug 15th 2019 at 3:33:19 AM
@Physical Stamina: That's your opinion, I see the exact opposite of a shoddy record when it comes to Sanders and racial issues, except the 1994 crime bill, which was basically the consensus of the nineties. Statements are another different thing.
Life is unfair...True. I remember when I pointed out that Kamela had a shitty record on wrongful convictions and police misconduct I was accused of slandering her and numerous posters downplayed the fact that she could have authorized DNA testing in a controversial case (where it is VERY likely that the police tampered with DNA evidence to ensure the guy would get executed) by saying "why aren't you going after Jerry Brown? He's the governor he has authority" (true or not Kamela did as well and she consciously sat on it until she got called out on it by Nick Kristof and no longer had the power to make a difference.)
It's only recently that most posters here have really taken the time to criticize Kamela Harris (for a long time this thread had a lot of centrist arguments about how Liberal progressives are stupid dreamers, with "unicorn brigade" being one of my favorites) or centrists like Pelosi (never mind that Clinton and Biden ALSO were involved in the crime bill.)
Edited by LordYAM on Aug 15th 2019 at 1:43:38 AM
You are grossly exaggerating the common sentiment about Sanders in the thread, yes most of us aren't Sanders supporters or fans but the worst criticism I've seen of him is that he's clueless and often indifferent of problems that aren't his pet issues.
But that's not thinking that he's Satan, compare our treatment of Sanders to how we treat Trump or other Republicans (who we actually think are Satan) and the difference is as clear as day.
We're critical of Sanders, but that isn't the same thing as hating him.
Pfft, unicorn brigade was a term used against the kind of left-wing people who rejected anyone who wasn't perfect or outright ignored how progressive some people are (like Hillary Clinton).
It wasn't a centrist argument.
Furthermore, Pelosi is not a centrist. She was one of the first members of the Progressive Caucus.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 15th 2019 at 1:46:05 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangIt wasn't until this year. In May 2018 I posted an article about how Harris had the chance to authorize another round of DNA testing in a high profile case (there's VERY compelling proof that the police framed a black escape convict for the murder of a white family, that the true killer was a gang of white men and that the state tampered with DNA evidence prior to previous testing to ensure the guy would get executed.) I was accused of "slandering" Kamela Harris and people were all "uhh why aren't you going after Jerry Brown?"
Last year Ambar and a lot of other posters basically implied that liberal progressives were "unicorn brigade" who had stupid ideas. It felt like "shut the fuck up and toe the centrist party line." That they also ignored that Hillary's record on race is even WORSE than Sanders to a degree (as well a gay rights) was galling
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Pelosi has spent more time attacking Occasio Cortez and the other members of the squad than attacking Donald Trump, and has openly said "don't criticize centrists in public."
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/10/pelosi-progressives-twitter-1405763
Pelosi's a fucking disgrace. Hillary also defended wall street banks after her turn in the 90s and openly ignored that the Israeli government has gleefully fucked the palestinians over (to say nothing of the fact that she was involved in the crime bill and only "evolved" on gay rights when it became popular to do so).
Edited by LordYAM on Aug 15th 2019 at 1:50:48 AM

If Hickenlooper is as popular in Colorado as people here, and 538, say he is, that could improve Democratic chances in the Senate greatly.
Furthermore, as a politician he's inoffensive at the worst, as far as I can tell.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.