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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#287476: Aug 12th 2019 at 3:35:30 AM

I made a typo. I edited the post to convey what I really meant to say.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#287477: Aug 12th 2019 at 4:36:26 AM

The mistake of the film-makers was in not knowing that while right-wingers love their victimhood fantasies, they HATE admitting they have victimhood fantasies.

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#287478: Aug 12th 2019 at 4:44:49 AM

So did this film get cancelled because of right-wing outrage? That's super ironic given their insistence that Hollywood and the media have an anti-conservative bias. Can't imagine that'll ever change if they themselves force Hollywood to cancel actual movies with a sympathetic eye toward conservatism.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#287479: Aug 12th 2019 at 5:17:58 AM

Trump and Fox needed a target for their outrage and "Liberal Elites" In Hollywood is always a favorite one, especially if you assume it's code.

The fact it hit a movie designed to appeal to them doesn't affect either of them.

It does mean the bean counters knew their intended audience wouldn't see it.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#287480: Aug 12th 2019 at 5:47:41 AM

> So did this film get cancelled because of right-wing outrage?

It got cancelled because it provoked the response they wanted,that's really all they wanted,attention,I donbt they were ever serious about the film to begin with,think of it as a publicity stunt

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#287481: Aug 12th 2019 at 6:07:15 AM

[up]I don't think that works on any level.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#287482: Aug 12th 2019 at 6:09:04 AM

and why not?

The president tweeted about it,which is as a big endorsement as you can get

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#287483: Aug 12th 2019 at 6:12:35 AM

The President tweeted about how it was shit. It was also aimed at his audience of followers.

It also was a movie that had millions sunk into it.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 12th 2019 at 6:12:55 AM

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#287484: Aug 12th 2019 at 6:16:03 AM

Millions they can make back not like they're an indie studio

Edited by Ultimatum on Aug 12th 2019 at 1:17:05 PM

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#287485: Aug 12th 2019 at 6:19:52 AM

That's not really the point. Even the biggest studios frown on projects dropping millions of dollars, as it comes out of their bottom line and, more importantly, their investors' bottom lines.

As The Hunger Games Pitch Meeting shows, we sell films based on the spectacle of horrific violence against underprivileged people with the paper-thin excuse that the violence is "portrayed as bad".

"Kids killing kids super violently..." "It's got to be PG-13, though." "... Kids killing kids offscreen, with lots of shaky cam." "There it is. Now the whole family can enjoy the child murders."

The only reason this particular film is getting dropped is because it happened to coincide with everyone getting mad about yet another set of grisly real-life murders.

I refused to watch The Purge.

Edited by Fighteer on Aug 12th 2019 at 9:24:56 AM

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Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#287486: Aug 12th 2019 at 6:48:07 AM

The thing with the Republican party, and lets face it a huge chunk of conservative people in America in general is that they protect people accused of sex crimes. I mean, say what you want about Hollywood, but many including people who got lots of help from him in their early careers like Kevin Smith distanced themselves from Harvey Weinsteen, but when Trump is credibly accused of being linked with Jefferey Epstein they refuse to believe it and continue to worship Trump as a God.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#287487: Aug 12th 2019 at 6:50:32 AM

The Purge movies are one of my favorite guilty pleasure franchises. But you can skip the first time if you want to watch for the social critique of white nationalist Kill the Poor crypto-religious fascism.

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#287488: Aug 12th 2019 at 7:04:18 AM

Is it really a "critique" if those white nationalists are still getting off on it?

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#287489: Aug 12th 2019 at 7:06:57 AM

Yeah, I always found that critique to be a little half-handed since it seems to be pandering to the very people it’s supposed to critique.

I know you can’t control your audience, but you can control your message.

They should have sent a poet.
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#287491: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:07:50 AM

Of course. What's the opposite of surprising?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#287492: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:13:38 AM

Here's a list of antonyms for "surprised"

"Unsurprised" seems to be the best fit. "Expected" and "assumed" work too.

Disgusted, but not surprised
danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#287493: Aug 12th 2019 at 10:48:57 AM

Resigned? Because that's how I feel about whenever Republicans act like Republicans and trample all over human rights and the environment even more.

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#287494: Aug 12th 2019 at 11:01:46 AM

"The Purge movies are one of my favorite guilty pleasure franchises. But you can skip the first time if you want to watch for the social critique of white nationalist Kill the Poor crypto-religious fascism."

Satire requires a clarity of purpose and target, lest it be mistaken for and contribute to that which it intends to criticize. The Purge doesn't really have that.

Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Aug 12th 2019 at 2:02:05 PM

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#287495: Aug 12th 2019 at 11:30:57 AM

Fuck this administration, fuck this administration, FUCK this goddamned, misbegotten bullshit xenophobic administration!

TL;DR - they're making it harder to LEGALLY immigrate.

The Trump administration released a regulation Monday that could dramatically cut the number of legal immigrants allowed to enter and stay in the US by making it easier to reject green card and visa applications.

Paired with last week's enforcement raids on food processing plants in Mississippi, Monday's announcement amounts to a concerted effort by the administration to limit legal immigration and crack down on illegal immigration.

The rule means many green card and visa applicants could be turned down if they have low incomes or little education, and have used benefits such as most forms of Medicaid, food stamps, and housing vouchers, because they'd be deemed more likely to need government assistance in the future.

It will encourage "self-reliance and self-sufficiency for those seeking to come to or stay in the United States," said acting US Citizenship and Immigration Services Director Ken Cuccinelli, appearing in the White House briefing room. In doing so, though, it'll likely make it harder for low-income immigrants to come to the US.

When asked about whether the rule is unfairly targeting low-income immigrants, Cuccinelli said: "We certainly expect people of any income to be able to stand on their own two feet, so if people are not able to be self-sufficient, than this negative factor is going to bear very heavily against them in a decision about whether they'll be able to become a legal permanent resident. "

Fucking bootstraps bullshit enabled this.

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#287496: Aug 12th 2019 at 11:37:01 AM

[up] Wow, that’s classism and racism rolled into one terrible bundle!

Funny “coincidence” that most of the immigrants that won’t be “low income” are European, college-educated, and wealthy.

They really couldn’t be any more transparent. It’s not xenophobia, it’s racism; they don’t care about wealthy whites immigrating, but can’t have those poor brown people coming in. Gag.

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Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#287497: Aug 12th 2019 at 11:58:17 AM

Yeah, I always found that critique to be a little half-handed since it seems to be pandering to the very people it’s supposed to critique.

Getting Dragon's Crown flashbacks here.

"No, see, the sorceress has giant boobs because it's satire! Her boobs are only taking up 80% of her body mass because it's critiquing other games for having hyper sexualized women! ...what? What folder full of porn of her on my desktop? Oh, I, uh, only downloaded those ironically."

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#287498: Aug 12th 2019 at 12:00:26 PM

Is it really a "critique" if those white nationalists are still getting off on it?

Given they're treated as barely human Chaotic Evil orcs and the super-rich as pathetic cowards, I'm not sure how you could be more critqueable. The movies are vicious in their satire and some of the most direct about what kiund of people they loathe.

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#287499: Aug 12th 2019 at 1:38:30 PM

So does that endangered species thing require a vote and how long would it take?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#287500: Aug 12th 2019 at 1:53:10 PM

Everything requires a vote,if not will do if there's a significant backlash

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