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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Brought up on the previous page, unless your intention was to give it the headline treatment.
This is a two-way dilemma. You either feel cheated in that we couldn't beat more info out of him, or you feel glad that he no longer exists. Also, shame his death couldn't be on the peoples' hand rather than his own.
ASAB: All Sponsors Are Bad.It being a suicide isn’t confirmed yet, some press seem to be jumping the gun on the cause of death.
He’s dead and because of that a lot of very powerful pedophiles will be sleeping more soundly tonight.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI feel cheated we can't beat more info out of him and disappointed that his victims won't get the opportunity to watch him squirm and suffer. Hopefully they can still get something by filing a civil suit against his estate and this does nothing to stop info about the people he, uh, "did business" with.
Edited by Bur on Aug 10th 2019 at 8:45:41 AM
NYPD says he hanged himself. Which is really impressive when you consider that he was on suicide watch (so, no belt, no shoelaces, even clothing is optional) in a cell with 24-hour CCTV surveillance
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Wait fucking NYPD were in charge of his custody? I’m surprised it took this long for him to ‘suicide’.
Any report on if his guards have been arrested? If he was on suicide watch and was able to commit suicide then they should be held criminally liable.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranEpstein was being held in MCC New York, which is operated by Federal Bureau of Prisons, not NYPD.
I’m guessing he was being held in a low-security cell, which wouldn’t have CCTV and might have the materials needed to make a rope.
Edited by archonspeaks on Aug 10th 2019 at 6:58:04 AM
They should have sent a poet.Can we not engage in conspiracy theories? He was a wealthy predator who for the first time in his life wasn't going to get away this time, and he knew it.
It actually being suicide is perfectly plausible.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangYou don't need to murder an already suicidal person - you just need to conveniently leave something in the cell and not check on him for a while.
Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Aug 10th 2019 at 3:59:17 PM
We learn from history that we do not learn from historyIf it wasn't a conspiracy, it sure as hell is good Conspiracy Theory fodder.
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Irrational nonsense, the timing makes perfect sense for an authentic suicide.
There is zero evidence of a conspiracy, it's just unfounded speculation.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 10th 2019 at 7:01:44 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangIt doesn't make me suspicious because there is zero evidence.
It's not rational to jump to conspiracy just because you "feel" it to be right, human impulses aren't rational in these situations and shouldn't be trusted.
Life isn't a work of fiction and our narratives are not reliable.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 10th 2019 at 7:06:16 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang

Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide
Damnit, I wanted him to bring up dirt on the big wigs.