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#286851: Aug 7th 2019 at 7:50:39 PM

Mitch The Murderer.

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#286852: Aug 7th 2019 at 7:53:18 PM

Mitch the Butcher.

Why alliterate when you can (sorta) rhyme?

Soban Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#286853: Aug 7th 2019 at 7:55:21 PM

... I get the feeling that labeling someone as a murderer when they haven't actually killed anyone personally might be getting a bit close to what Trump is doing.

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#286854: Aug 7th 2019 at 7:59:15 PM

Mitch is literally one of the 5 most powerful politicians in the country. And he gleefully does nothing against this slaughter. Stop with the false equivalencies and handwringing.

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#286855: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:00:05 PM

Hasn't Mitch actually killed people, though? I mean, I know he's killed people with his policies, and his policies are specifically made for the purpose of killing people. Seems like nitpicking if you see a difference there.

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#286856: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:01:19 PM

I suspect Charles has an opinion here as a Kentuckian.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#286857: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:03:25 PM

The only issue I'd have with "Mitch the Murderer" as a hashtag is that it could potentially be open to defamation lawsuits. Since legally he isn't a murderer, even if his policies are directly responsible for so many people dying.

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Soban Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#286858: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:03:48 PM

I can't speak for everyone, but I feel really really uncomfortable about labeling someone a murderer for disagreeing with you politically. And disagreeing politically is basically what it boils down to. I'd feel much the same if republicans had something like #Killing Cortez or other similar nonsense.

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#286859: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:05:04 PM

[up]...That is not why people are calling Mitch a murderer here. It's not just a political disagreement.

It's because his policies are literally killing people.

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#286860: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:05:35 PM

I can't speak for everyone, but I feel really really uncomfortable about labeling someone a murderer for disagreeing with you politically. And disagreeing politically is basically what it boils down to.

No, you're wrong. Mitch is directly responsible for the deaths of many people, this is beyond "disagreeing politically".

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#286861: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:06:19 PM

~Soban Nobody is calling McConnell a murderer because we disagree with him politically. They're calling him a murderer because his stances, policies, actions, and inaction have, directly and indirectly, caused peoples' deaths.

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#286862: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:06:38 PM

And as much as I don't particularly like Rep. Ocasio-Cortez, last time I checked she hasn't spear-headed any policies that have resulted in a lot of people dying.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#286863: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:07:28 PM

Nor expressed any interest in doing so.

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#286864: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:10:02 PM

>Nobody is calling Mc Connell a murderer because we disagree with him politically. They're calling him a murderer because his stances, policies, actions, and inaction have, directly and indirectly, caused peoples' deaths.

so politics.

Pretty much anything the goverment does can be loosely linked to people's death somewhere as a consequence. If you could tightly bind something apolitical for me, that would go a long way to helping change my mind (not guaranteed by any stretch).

and upon reflection, I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with it even then.

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#286865: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:10:37 PM

The false equivalences are baffling to me. I don't see how anyone could interpret that hashtag as a threat unless they're really looking to interpret it as such.

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#286866: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:18:27 PM

[up][up]How many degrees does one have to be removed before one can be considered sufficiently involved in causing someone's death? Was Trevelyan innocent of the deaths of thousands of Irish farmers when he denied food aid to them? When McConnell tries to kick even more people off their insurance plans and there are honest-to-God Americans starving in the streets of Kentucky because of policies he's personally supported or drafted, is he not a murderer?

Edited by danime91 on Aug 7th 2019 at 8:18:39 AM

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#286867: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:19:58 PM

Well, if you passed a bill that denied people stuff like health care, or food, or money, or whatever necessary thing they could use to survive, that kind of puts your finger on the trigger. The Faceless Senator certainly does that a lot. Think that's a sign.

Every politician does something that's of cause and effect, but the Faceless certainly does a lot of things that go towards inconveniencing people. Tell me you aren't actively trying to defend the indefensible.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#286868: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:21:54 PM

Calling Mitch a Murderer or Massacre Mitch, I think is a false equivalence but Moscow Mitch doesn't cover the sheer level of what horrible shit he's done to Kentucky as well as a nation as a whole. On the other hand, he doesn't really seem to care about any save Moscow Mitch.

Monster Mitch?

And yes, in terms of Terry Pratchett's GOING POSTAL, "In what context has Mitch led directly to the deaths of people because of his actions?" I'd say the number is in the thousands because he's, even without the food and medical denials, directly contributed to preventing aid to the Opiod Crisis.

Even at dialing that at, "Half or one-tenth a murder" that adds up.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 7th 2019 at 8:23:35 AM

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#286869: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:23:25 PM

Objecting to the name of the hashtag is one thing, but the argument that most things the government does can result in people's deaths also feels disingenuous because it seems to disregard the fact that not all policies are equally linked to people's deaths. Mitch enabling policies that contribute very directly to human suffering and loss of life is more or less the point of the hashtag, which is important to emphasize even if you think it's improperly named.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Aug 7th 2019 at 11:25:05 AM

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#286870: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:24:38 PM

Mitch, the itch you can't get rid of.

Or Mitchell Shephard.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#286871: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:25:54 PM

I should also point out that the problem with the hashtags are that Mitch has done so much evil, it's difficult to focus on anything specific.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 7th 2019 at 8:26:22 AM

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#286873: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:35:14 PM

Putting the "Con" in McConnell

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#286874: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:36:21 PM

"Mammon Mitch" if you want to go Biblical.

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#286875: Aug 7th 2019 at 8:47:04 PM

[up][up][up] ... Please let that trend. Please someone make this happen!

No, wait, that would be unfair to every other "Mitch" out there that isn't anywhere near being the horrible monster that is Mitch McConnell.

Edited by MarqFJA on Aug 7th 2019 at 6:47:55 PM

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