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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#286801: Aug 7th 2019 at 9:18:24 AM

Conversation is shifting from discussion of topic to discussion of specific tropers.

Maybe don't?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#286802: Aug 7th 2019 at 9:19:27 AM

Noted.

I think I'm letting this particular user get to me more than I should...

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 7th 2019 at 10:20:41 AM

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#286803: Aug 7th 2019 at 9:19:33 AM

Misogyny seems to be semi-related to the Dayton shooter, given he had a rape list. Also domestic violence and stalking are common predictors of further violence.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#286804: Aug 7th 2019 at 9:20:35 AM

Hence the comparison to "Perfect Gentleman" Elliot Rodgers?

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#286805: Aug 7th 2019 at 10:19:14 AM

There might be a hint of honour killing involved: he seems to have gone for his sister, first.

No bets: he decided she was going out with Chad. Or, worse, Charlos. And, that just wouldn't do.

Edited by Euodiachloris on Aug 7th 2019 at 6:21:52 PM

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#286806: Aug 7th 2019 at 11:00:19 AM

You know, I vaguely remember Trump getting pissed at the reaction to him walking back his initial comments on Charlottesville and swearing to never do it again because it made him look weak. It thus surprises me that his first statement on the shooting was to condemn racism; I would've expected him to either lay the blame entirely on the left (he's no stranger to blatantly lying in defiance of basic logic) or just resort to pseudo-bothsiding to appear "reasonable".

Edited by MarqFJA on Aug 7th 2019 at 9:00:36 PM

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#286807: Aug 7th 2019 at 11:08:11 AM

Orange County, longtime GOP stronghold, now has more registered Democrats than Republicans Orange County, which nurtured Ronald Reagan’s conservatism and is the resting place of Richard Nixon, is now home to 547,458 registered Democrats

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-08-07/orange-county-turns-blue-with-more-registered-democrats-than-republicans

singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#286808: Aug 7th 2019 at 11:12:24 AM

[up][up] I think he'll be fine with it as long as it is not in public. Charlottesville required him to go to the lectern a few times to try and correct the record - that was the weakness. As long as he perceives that the statements he makes from the pulpit are not due to external pressure then there is no weakness. The first statement is the exception: at times of national crisis the President always responds so that one doesn't count. But after that, if Trump feels he has to go back to the nation and make another statement on this topic due to the overwhelming negative press then that is weakness.

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#286809: Aug 7th 2019 at 11:37:50 AM

Someone wrote Trump's speech for him this time. You can always tell when he's reciting his own words because he's really enthusiastic and energized about it.

His condemnation of white supremacy, while a step above his reaction to the Charlottesville riot, reeked of fakeness. He was very slow and very deliberate with the words he spoke. For most Presidents, careful and calculated statements would be normal. But for Trump, it's a sure sign that he's just reciting remarks someone handed to him.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 7th 2019 at 12:38:44 PM

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singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#286810: Aug 7th 2019 at 12:07:25 PM

[up] It's obvious they weren't his words. I enjoyed Seth Meyers take - "Teleprompter urges unity while old man watches"

The question however was about if Trump would see this statement as a weak statement, given what happened in Charlottlesville. Marq's view is that as Trump is a racist any statement which runs counter to that view is a weak statement in Trump's eyes, and therefore one he does not want to make. My view is that Trump doesn't care what the statement is as long as he feels in control. So as long as he doesn't have to make a second statement, he won't care.

Edited by singularityshot on Aug 7th 2019 at 12:09:55 PM

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#286811: Aug 7th 2019 at 12:11:23 PM

Guys, how can you question the sincerity of his hate condemnation of a man who 9 minutes ago at the time of this posting, he tweeted this:

"Watching Sleepy Joe Biden making a speech. Sooo Boring! The Lame Stream Media will die in the ratings and clicks with this guy. It will be over for them, not to mention the fact that our Country will do poorly with him. It will be one big crash, but at least China will be happy!"

He's totally sincere and wasn't reading off a teleprompter.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#286812: Aug 7th 2019 at 12:12:13 PM

Another big difference between Charlottesville and now was that back then a lot of the media gave him some praise for trying to sound "unifying" and "presidential." Whereas this time the most common response I saw to Trump's Teleprompter Speech from news outlets was that it "reeked of insincerity."

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#286813: Aug 7th 2019 at 12:27:14 PM

My lady AOC tweeted about how the media is still giving Trump major passes on ridiculous bullshit.

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1158557383767052293

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#286815: Aug 7th 2019 at 1:09:23 PM

"Let this front page serve as a reminder of how white supremacy is aided by - and often relies upon - the cowardice of mainstream institutions."

She's referring to the since-changed NYT headline "Trump urges unity vs racism".

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#286816: Aug 7th 2019 at 1:17:00 PM

Thank you. So that's what prompted Trump's morning tirade.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#286817: Aug 7th 2019 at 1:23:58 PM

Orange County, California, a traditional GOP stronghold (that the Dems almost totally toppled in 2018), now has more registered Democrats than Republicans.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/politics/orange-county-california-democrats-republicans/index.html

Analysts on both sides see this as just one part of a suburban shift against the GOP, one that has been going on for over a decade but is being hastened by Trump.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#286818: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:01:38 PM

You know what I want to happen right now? Trump starts one of his hate-filled rants at a rally, only to suddenly flub his words as he briefly chokes on his own spit. He tries to continue after recovering, only to choke again in the same manner when he starts the hate-spewing. And again. And again. And again. Until he finally gives up and says a much more brief and straightforward summary of his points before storming off to throw a tantrum in private over how the Democrats must've spiked his water with something.

Edited by MarqFJA on Aug 7th 2019 at 12:03:04 PM

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#286819: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:10:40 PM

"(that the Dems almost totally toppled in 2018),"

Almost? We did totally topple the Republicans in 2018. It took over a week to count all the votes, but every OC district was won by a Democrat last year.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#286820: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:11:27 PM

Oh, I was under the mistaken impression that there was a single GOP holdout, probably the one that took a while.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#286821: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:16:08 PM

We have a perfectly serviceable thread on California matters, for what it's worth.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#286822: Aug 7th 2019 at 2:36:25 PM

I figured it was relevant to this thread due the shift being a US wide trend.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#286823: Aug 7th 2019 at 3:00:47 PM

Speaking of California, I haven't heard about that "secretly" Russian-backed secessionist movement/group/proposal/whateveritwas for quite a while. Did it quietly die out?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#286824: Aug 7th 2019 at 3:08:52 PM

It comes and goes with each election that it gets on the ballot.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#286825: Aug 7th 2019 at 3:12:40 PM

"I feel bored today,what should be we do?"

"Let's be secessionists!"

"Yay"

have a listen and have a link to my discord server

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