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#286526: Aug 4th 2019 at 2:55:31 PM

[up][up]Restricting access to guns would do serious damage to the NRA's bottom line, so they 1) pay politicians thousands of dollars to go to bat for them so they can make money and 2) (and this is important) run ads that convince their viewers that America is doomed to fall into ruin unless they "take action" about the evil, satanic, communist (or socialist, it hardly matters here), radical anti-American left. They encourage people to buy more guns to fight in the culture war, because that's (part of) how they make their money. [nja]

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Aug 4th 2019 at 5:56:26 AM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#286527: Aug 4th 2019 at 2:59:22 PM

Fortunately, the NRA's been going progressively downhill lately, thanks to scandals about their leadership causing other names to leave it and causing financial problems.


8chan Is a Megaphone for Gunmen. ‘Shut the Site Down,’ Says Its Creator. – The site is a venue for extremists to test out ideas, share violent literature, and cheer on the perpetrators of mass killings

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/04/technology/8chan-shooting-manifesto.html

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 4th 2019 at 4:03:36 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#286528: Aug 4th 2019 at 3:05:33 PM

As they ran out money (can't survive without that sponsorship cash!" expect them get less and less relevant,until everyone has mostly forgotten about them and they quietly die in the corner,although in all likelihood a similar acronym styled Guns advocacy will fill in for them,maybe they'll be the ARN or something

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#286530: Aug 4th 2019 at 4:08:10 PM

Weirdly, I actually appreciate that the Mexican government is upset. It's nice to see that some political leaders actually care when their citizens get murdered by American gunmen. God knows ours don't.

If they sue us, I'm actually rooting for Mexico. Maybe international pressure can convince Congress to do something.

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CustardAndPie Oh Captain!~ from in a tank 'bout to steal yo girl Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Remembering what Mama said
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#286531: Aug 4th 2019 at 4:20:14 PM

If they sue us, I'm actually rooting for Mexico

This 100%. I don't give a shit if I get called a traitor, the Trump administration and its supporters need to learn the consequences of their hateful rhetoric. And if it means a major lawsuit against the US government, then so be it.

Edited by CustardAndPie on Aug 4th 2019 at 6:21:44 AM

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#286532: Aug 4th 2019 at 4:24:23 PM

If the Trump administration calls anyone a traitor, the best thing to do is to point out that they betrayed the nation first.

Though were I in in Mexico's shoes, I'd try suing more than just Trump but also the aforementioned 8chan and the NRA as well. All three are linked to the alt-right and the recent mass shootings.

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#286533: Aug 4th 2019 at 4:28:10 PM

[up]Can we include Reddit in there, too? I have no doubt T_D and a few other subs have had a hand in these 2 shootings, even if it simply means radicalizing the shooters in the first place.

Oh, wait, they can't, because if they ban alt-right subs it prevents "valuable discussion". Yeah, fuck you too, spez.

[down]Nope, it's still there. Quarantinednote , but still there.

Edited by CustardAndPie on Aug 4th 2019 at 6:53:56 AM

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#286534: Aug 4th 2019 at 4:31:23 PM

I could have sworn reddit actually nuked T_D but I guess I was wrong about that.

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#286535: Aug 4th 2019 at 4:31:35 PM

Ever notice how when the terrorists are Muslims, combatting their ideology is "priority #1," but when they're white supremacists, the isolated incident caused by a gun is the problem?

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#286536: Aug 4th 2019 at 4:39:58 PM

[up]It's a common observation, and a common belief that you have to be Muslim (read: Middle Eastern) to be a terrorist.

[up][up][up]They've nuked other alt-right subs, but T_D remains IIRC.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Aug 4th 2019 at 7:40:23 AM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#286537: Aug 4th 2019 at 4:40:04 PM

In fact, the NRA benefits strongly from the fear of gun legislation more than actual guns itself. The NRA is paid by the gun industry and hordes of gun-nuts so that the reason it became the powerhouse it was in large part was due to the racism and fear of "Obama gunna take our guns." It was the election of Trump that more or less helped cause it's collapse that's reaching Enron levels now (that and being so fucking stupid as to hire Oliver North—a man who is both a criminal AND a spymaster because they forgot their defense of him was Blatant Lies).

What happened? When people believed their Messiah was in office, they stopped donating to the NRA.

By that point, they'd already driven themselves massively in-debt and bought a network no one watched.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 4th 2019 at 4:42:37 AM

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#286538: Aug 4th 2019 at 5:01:35 PM

So Be Careful What You Wish For incarnate? Maybe the nra will collapse...pfff ahaha who am I kidding, if a progressive wins in 2020 they’re set for another decade.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#286539: Aug 4th 2019 at 5:04:20 PM

#MassacreMitch is trending number one on twitter.

Edited by megaeliz on Aug 4th 2019 at 8:04:34 AM

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#286540: Aug 4th 2019 at 5:08:20 PM

r/the_donald was "quarantined", which in Reddit terminology means that it's basically invisible to the rest of the site. Posts from r/the_donald won't show up in search results, on the front page, or in r/all. The only way to see content posted to r/the_donald is to go there deliberately — and anyone doing that gets a big warning saying that the subreddit has been quarantined and why.

tldr, they haven't kicked it off Reddit entirely, but they've made it so that you'll only see it if you're deliberately, explicitly looking for it.

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#286541: Aug 4th 2019 at 5:16:18 PM

Usually it’s followed by a ban, but this is T_D we’re talking about. It’s reddit’s darling. I suspect they’ll remove the quarantine eventually.

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#286542: Aug 4th 2019 at 5:19:01 PM

Honestly, is question of time. Plus, it's kind of impossible to remove a place for the American president. I expect the Donald to close after Trump's term is over, but not during.

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#286543: Aug 4th 2019 at 5:37:11 PM

My understanding was that they were keeping T_D around as a kind of 'containment zone'- Like, there was a time when it got temporarily shut down because of technical difficulties or something, and the assholes contained within leaked out and start polluting the rest of the site.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#286544: Aug 4th 2019 at 5:49:36 PM

Reddit's owners aren't actually Donaldists themselves.

Primarily because they've been threatened with violence, doxing, and lawsuits because of the shit R/Donald and other groups like them have brought down on them. The site owners and managers did it for money and were Silicon libertarian types but they're not neck deep in the cult of the Cheeto.

Their primary wish is for the shit they bring to go away.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 4th 2019 at 5:50:03 AM

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Imca (Veteran)
#286545: Aug 4th 2019 at 5:49:54 PM

That and the federal government likes sites like that existing, cloudfare (8chans host) has said the only reason they don't remove it is the DOJ tells them not too, same with Stormfront and its host.....

...

This isn't the "DOJ agreeing with them either" the logic is by giving all these people a place to congregate, it becomes easier to watch them and intercept them when they go to do something bad....

...

Which happens pretty often, you just never hear about terror attacks that get stopped.

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#286546: Aug 4th 2019 at 6:47:33 PM

[up][up]Which, you know, it could if they just removed the sub.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#286547: Aug 4th 2019 at 6:56:50 PM

Last time I heard of extremist rightwing Redditors "starting their own" (i.e. Voat) it just faded away.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#286548: Aug 4th 2019 at 7:01:39 PM

Speaking of 8chan, reminder that THQ Nordic higher ups had an AMA on 8chan and even advertised it by pinning it to the top of their Twitter account for days back in late February.

So, yeah, fuck THQ Nordic.

Edited by tclittle on Aug 4th 2019 at 9:02:09 AM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#286549: Aug 4th 2019 at 7:14:14 PM

Which, you know, it could if they just removed the sub.

That results in its subscribers going elsewhere and harrassing them, dummy accounts, and more.

The question is whether quarantining radicalizes or not.

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#286550: Aug 4th 2019 at 7:21:06 PM

McConnell fractured his shoulder on his porch at his Kentucky home.

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