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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#286501: Aug 3rd 2019 at 9:00:22 PM

In Kentucky, I mentioned 30 miles away, we had a guy go on a shooting of a black church. They'd already left so he just shot two people in his Kroger. Generally, people who get killed by guns in Kentucky are because of crime but the government classifying their hate crimes as something else.

But maybe I protest too much.

UP MY STREET, a angry white man took his wife and child hostage and tried to kill them and then himself before the Ashland SWAT killed him. This was like 2-3 years ago.

...

Ever have a moment you realize you are living a very not normal life? And then are horrified that you might be?

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 3rd 2019 at 9:12:00 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#286502: Aug 3rd 2019 at 9:39:46 PM

We DO have a Gun Control thread here.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Imca (Veteran)
#286503: Aug 3rd 2019 at 10:06:54 PM

How long until we get "Good people on both sides" :/

Codafett Knows-Many-Things Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Knows-Many-Things
#286504: Aug 3rd 2019 at 11:11:11 PM

[up][up] I'm sure we do, but no one seems interested in using it. Maybe make a new Gun Crime thread to cover all the bases.

Just Having Fun
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#286505: Aug 4th 2019 at 1:31:08 AM

There's been another mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio.

Mayor Pete said it best:

“America is under attack from homegrown white nationalist terrorism,” he said. “White nationalism is evil. And it is inspiring people to commit murder, and it is being condoned at the highest levels of the American government, and that has to end.”

When asked if he believes Trump is a white nationalist, Buttigieg said the president “at best condones and encourages white nationalism.

“It’s flourished under his watch,” he said. “This isn’t an accident.”

Buttigieg also stressed the need for stricter gun control laws across the country.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 4th 2019 at 4:02:55 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#286506: Aug 4th 2019 at 4:14:36 AM

A right-wing show host tried to spread misinformation about the shootings and got suspended from Twitter over it.

Nice to see a social media site actually do something about fake news for once.

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#286507: Aug 4th 2019 at 4:19:27 AM

[up]Made the mistake of scrolling down. I really should know better by now.

Disgusted, but not surprised
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#286508: Aug 4th 2019 at 4:58:52 AM

[up][up][up]

And even worse - he was killed within a minute of opening fire, but still managed to kill 9 people and injure another 26. Someone mentioned suicide bombings, car attacks, and knife attacks earlier. The key difference between those and a shooting is how many can be killed in a short amount of time - no way can a knife-wielder kill 9 people and injure another 26 in the span of just 60 seconds, a car attacker would likely have the car be irreparably damaged before doing that kind of damage, and a suicide bomber would require the materials and know-how to pull it off. A gun? Literally just point-and-shoot.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Codafett Knows-Many-Things Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Knows-Many-Things
#286509: Aug 4th 2019 at 5:03:18 AM

[up][up][up][up] I blame the President's rhetoric fully for the state of things. Obviously bad shit happens under every president, but I can't remember the last time a POTUS was so apathetic towards actual issues, while also propping up racist, sexist behavior which in turn fuels these attacks.

2 mass killings hours after the other, in separate states miles apart. I'd suspect a conspiracy but it's almost a certainty that one led to the other. I'm sure somewhere, some monster is happy that so many innocent lives are being snuffed out for no reason.

[up] The argument that "We don't need gun control because someone can kill people any other way" has always infuriated me. Yeah, absolutely someone could use a car, or a knife or a bomb but there's a reason they use guns: Quick, reliable, accurate. Barely any need to plan, and you can cause all kinds of destruction in a matter of minutes. I'm so tired of this.

Edited by Codafett on Aug 4th 2019 at 5:06:52 AM

Just Having Fun
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#286510: Aug 4th 2019 at 6:34:16 AM

@M84

Funny, I just checked and it looks like the comments have been curated, almost all of them are good.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#286511: Aug 4th 2019 at 6:35:49 AM

This is beyond ridiculous at this point. We can't even get through 24 hours without a spree.

And Trump did offer a Twitter response to the El Paso shooting. Guess what it was? Thoughts and prayers. How about some action? And while you're at it, how about not riling up lunatics at your rallies?

Edited by speedyboris on Aug 4th 2019 at 6:37:41 AM

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#286512: Aug 4th 2019 at 6:41:14 AM

@M84, apparently his account has been restored, going by the comments on the RWW tweet.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Aug 4th 2019 at 11:35:00 AM

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#286513: Aug 4th 2019 at 7:11:05 AM

[up]Why am I not surprised.

Disgusted, but not surprised
MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#286514: Aug 4th 2019 at 8:56:12 AM

Is it terrible of me that I'm almost completely numb to this sort of thing by this point?

I read about another mass shooting and I'm just like "Another mass shooting. So what else is new?"

Edited by MrHellboy on Aug 4th 2019 at 10:57:02 AM

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#286515: Aug 4th 2019 at 9:06:13 AM

[up]I can't really say. But I do think that's what the right is counting on.

[up][up], [up][up][up]That's what happens when the bigots you need to look like you're doing something about are revenue machines.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Aug 4th 2019 at 12:09:07 PM

i'm tired, my friend
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#286516: Aug 4th 2019 at 9:26:33 AM

[up][up]I do think it's terrible that you're getting numb to all the mass shootings. I also think it's terrible that I'm getting numb to the mass shootings, too.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#286517: Aug 4th 2019 at 9:34:21 AM

At this point I'm not numb,but I've reached a begrudging acceptance that shootings happen every day somewhere,and that the reason the media reports on it is the bodycount involved,because thats what gets clicks and sells newspapers

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#286518: Aug 4th 2019 at 9:51:34 AM

Dayton shooter shot his sister and her BF before he went on his massacre.

eDIT: also most of the victims were people of color.

:/

Edited by TacticalFox88 on Aug 4th 2019 at 1:21:42 PM

New Survey coming this weekend!
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#286519: Aug 4th 2019 at 10:38:40 AM

When I saw the Reuters notification on my phone about the Ohio shooting, I legitimately wasn't sure if it was a new one or just reporting the first one.

[up] Immediate thought, was the boyfriend non-white?

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 4th 2019 at 11:40:20 AM

MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#286520: Aug 4th 2019 at 11:02:05 AM

Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not so numb that I'm not gonna do my part to get rid of Trump, and as many Republicans as possible.

No way in hell can we let them win

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#286522: Aug 4th 2019 at 2:01:10 PM

Now watch Trump escalate the already strained relations with Mexico because he refuses to show "weakness" against brown-skinned foreigners.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#286523: Aug 4th 2019 at 2:41:24 PM

When another mass shooting happens, I just feel resigned to the fact that it was allowed to happen.

There are several contributing factors to shootings, such as mental health, acknowledgement of which is lacking in our culture; the lack of access to health care for most people compounds this issue.

I wish that someone prominent would say, "Follow the money", because the NRA isn't about loving America and the Constitution; it's about the almighty dollar, the true religion of most conservatives. It's about a few Americans selling out their fellows because they like money and it makes them feel powerful.

Do not obey in advance.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#286524: Aug 4th 2019 at 2:43:31 PM

I admit that it's not clear to me what money has to do with mass shootings, other than by virtue of the fact that the NRA is considered to be the most powerful lobby in the US.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#286525: Aug 4th 2019 at 2:53:33 PM

[up]Because the NRA uses its money to buy out politicians.

Do not obey in advance.

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