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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
And then people will get inevitably disappointed/disillusioned, and we'll be dealing with yet another basket case within four two eight years.
That can happen even if you get a relatively progressive candidate in the WH. Obama was a progressive, according to people in this thread.
Besides, I don't think the people who support Biden expect much more from him than stopping the worst of Trump's garbage.
Edited by M84 on Aug 2nd 2019 at 3:17:01 AM
Disgusted, but not surprised
The key is the difference between expectations and reality. Even if the progressive one objectively accomplishes more, they will inevitably cause greater disappointment if they don't accomplish everything they promised they would do.
Personally, I was rather satisfied with Obama's accomplishments as POTUS. That's partly because I never really bought too much into his whole "Yes we can" hype.
Edited by M84 on Aug 2nd 2019 at 3:19:48 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedAye.
Also, a lot of Democrats want a moderate candidate because the arch progressives that dominate this thread are far from representative of what the actual primary voter looks like.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanSpeaking of Sanders, I've been wondering if some of the reasons why Sanders had problems back in 2016 with African-American voters - namely the perception that he is aiming for pies in the sky without either the money to pay for them or the political support to get them enacted - might be hurting Biden's competition this time round; one could make the same two concerns about many progressive policies as well.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThe African-American community is pretty conservative, they just vote democrat because they damn well know the republicans will actively try to hurt them. That does not mean they particularily want a super-progressive democrat, they just want "Not the Republicans".
Edited by Izeinsummer on Aug 1st 2019 at 2:10:13 AM
A lot of minority communities in the USA lean conservative. Especially older Asian people. We don't tend to get much attention whenever people talk about race stuff in the USA though. Probably because % wise there still aren't that many of us in the USA. Still kind of annoying though.
Edited by M84 on Aug 1st 2019 at 5:20:49 PM
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It's from 2018, but there is this
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/18/politics/poll-of-the-week-trump-black-voters/index.html
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He did however continue the PATRIOT Act.
Ahem.
You underestimate how attractive these three qualities are to voters concerned about "electability".
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