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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#285976: Jul 29th 2019 at 7:35:57 PM

Debates start tomorrow. What's everyone looking forward to? Any predictions? Advice the candidates should take to heart?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#285977: Jul 29th 2019 at 7:39:14 PM

I just hope Williamson gets discredited or loses ground so that she doesn't appear in the next round. I don't want that anti-vaxxer in the running anymore.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#285978: Jul 29th 2019 at 7:45:28 PM

Unless Williamson gets a substantial surge, she won't qualify for the 3rd round.

Personally, she shouldn't have gotten into the 1st, let alone the 2nd. Quacks and frauds don't deserve a voice in a serious party, that's what the Greens are there for.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#285979: Jul 29th 2019 at 7:48:39 PM

She's proof that the first round should really have had more stringent requirements.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#285980: Jul 29th 2019 at 7:59:21 PM

Though I forget precisely how the nights are arranged, my hope is this:

Bernie and Warren, please team up and knock off the low-pollers on your side. This field needs to winnow already and they've got a fair number of easy targets on their half.

As for Biden and Harris 2.0, I really hope she knocks him down again. He'll be better prepared this time, but she should be able to corner him on a number of issues.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#285981: Jul 29th 2019 at 8:01:02 PM

[up]Assuming he doesn't point out how she walked back on the issue she gave him shit for in the last debate. But he probably won't.

I don't think Warren and Sanders are going to team up against the others. They'll likely spend more time sniping at each other and play progressive one-upmanship.

Edited by M84 on Jul 29th 2019 at 11:02:46 PM

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#285982: Jul 29th 2019 at 8:08:07 PM

Biden also has to worry about Booker. Harris saved her criticism of Biden for the debate, where it had the advantage of shock value with her own personal story. Booker has been consistently critical of Biden since before the first debate. And this is Booker's make it or break it moment if he wants to ensure a place at the third debate.

The first debate was a wake up call for Biden. He'd been on cruise control up until then when Harris caught up and rammed him off the road. Now he's stopped acting like he's already in the general and has been more frequently dishing it out with Harris and Booker. He's been having mock debates to practice this time, so I suspect a repeat of last month won't be as easy.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#285983: Jul 29th 2019 at 8:38:39 PM

In a general sense, I want no more than 8 Democratic presidential candidates at once from 2024 on.

As for the debate, if Biden and Harris face off again, and even if they don't, I wonder if Harris' walkback on her attacks on Biden will be brought up?

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#285984: Jul 29th 2019 at 10:45:06 PM

From what I've heard, Williamson was a huge voice in the AIDS epidemic, telling people to stop using medicine and just believe in themselves to heal themselves, and if they died they didn't believe enough. Apparently, a lot of people died as a direct result of her quackery.

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#285985: Jul 29th 2019 at 11:48:59 PM

The religious right is absolutely full of such despicable quacks - of course they venerate Trump like the second coming; they recognize a fellow con artist.

I am honestly surprised that the people on the right wing haven't started outright praying to Trump instead of God.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#285986: Jul 30th 2019 at 12:00:55 AM

Bribing Fox to tell Trump what you want is more effective than praying to him.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#285987: Jul 30th 2019 at 6:02:50 AM

His voters, on the other hand, are halfway there. A while back, one of his voters was interviewed on the news about the whole Russia thing saying something to the effect of "If Jesus told me that Trump colluded with Russia, I would say, 'I'm sorry, but I would have to confer that with the President.'"

i'm tired, my friend
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#285988: Jul 30th 2019 at 6:13:20 AM

Personality cults are truly fucked up things.

Disgusted, but not surprised
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#285989: Jul 30th 2019 at 6:30:30 AM

Speaking of: CNN’s Don Lemon Confronts Pastor Over Trump Meeting: ‘Why Should Anyone Take You Seriously?

Lemon moved on: “So I know it’s hard for you, you think it’s hard to believe that Trump is racist. But he’s repeatedly used racially charged language. He consistently attacks black and brown elected leaders. So, why is that hard to believe, pastor?”

“I find President Trump leader of all colors. He attacks who he will. He’s his own man. I can’t dictate what he should or shouldn’t do. But he does not just attack black people. He attacks anybody, and you know it,” Owens replied.

“So as a man of faith, as a Christian you’re saying he attacks anyone. It sounds like you’re condoning attacks? Is that Christianly or Godly?” Lemon asked.

“I’m just stating a statement of fact,” Owens said. “I’m not condoning anything. I’m stating a statement of fact. President Trump does not pick the people he attacks because of color. He attacks anybody he feels needs it.”

“And is that okay with you?” Lemon pressed.

“Well I’m not his judge,” Owens said.

The amount of justifying that people do for this president is absurd.

Side note: I love how people interviewed on these shows can never give a straight answer, they always either A) Deflect, or B) Engage in what-about-ism, or C) Engage in Obfuscating Stupidity. I know this isn't a new phenomenon but it's really amped up under the Trump White House.

Edited by speedyboris on Jul 30th 2019 at 6:33:07 AM

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#285990: Jul 30th 2019 at 6:33:23 AM

Giving a straight answer would mean either admitting they're wrong about Trump, or they're just as bigoted as he is, both of which are very big No-Nos.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#285991: Jul 30th 2019 at 6:35:33 AM

Pastor.

"The important difference between Al-Quaeda and many Evangelical Christian groups is that the former get their own hands dirty" is a line I give to a fictional character, sometimes I wonder whether it also says something about Real Life.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#285992: Jul 30th 2019 at 6:40:09 AM

Mitch McConnell lashes out at the media on Senate floor about 'Moscow Mitch' accusation.

Hilarious given the Republican tendency for paranoia about communism and the fact that they're the ones who instigated McCarthyism.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#285993: Jul 30th 2019 at 6:46:40 AM

A Republican politician projecting, what else is new?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#285994: Jul 30th 2019 at 6:47:52 AM

To be fair, "Monstrous Mitch" or "Monster Mitch" would be a bit more accurate seeing as any Russian connections would be very far from the worst thing Evil Turtle has done.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#285995: Jul 30th 2019 at 6:55:57 AM

Hasn't Trump also called him Cocaine Mitch at some point?

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#285996: Jul 30th 2019 at 6:56:39 AM

That I hadn't heard of. Even if he did, though, what could Mitch possibly do about it?

i'm tired, my friend
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#285997: Jul 30th 2019 at 7:51:46 AM

Earn money on them.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#285998: Jul 30th 2019 at 8:03:33 AM

[up][up][up]That was Don Blankenship, coal CEO and the Faceless Senator's rival in Kentucky a year or so back. Frankly, I would have voted for the former even if his safety records were shit. Because then it would be easier to wrestle control from the latter in that state.

Edited by RainingMetal on Jul 30th 2019 at 8:03:43 AM

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#285999: Jul 30th 2019 at 8:11:53 AM

Mitch Mc Connell lashes out at the media on Senate floor about 'Moscow Mitch' accusation.
If Mitch's been so tough on Russia, why did he block those security bills?

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#286000: Jul 30th 2019 at 10:39:28 AM

I think that Booker should go up against Bernie at some point. Everyone harps on how Bernie was marching in the civil rights movement, but Booker was right up there with MLK. It’s ridiculous that they worship this old white man with a questionable racial history and trash Booker like he didn’t do shit.


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